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    How to get more knowledge on mechanics for dungeon and raid in higher level content ?

    So on my white mage I have reached the content after lvl 50 that has some mechanics and indicators that get me and I die and as a result the team wipes . Where can I learn about this indicators and how to counter them
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    If you haven't figured various markers out... you can ask here. Simply tell us what dungeon and what boss you were struggling with and describe what they did.

    There is also a video on youtube, however SPOILER WARNING - the video is quite comprehensive and will likely show you a lot of enemies you will fight on your way.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CceE5f...Fya2Vycw%3D%3D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparrowsong View Post
    So on my white mage I have reached the content after lvl 50 that has some mechanics and indicators that get me and I die and as a result the team wipes . Where can I learn about this indicators and how to counter them
    The most common way to learn how to do dungeons used to be to watch MTQcapture's guides https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwHk...4Jv57XiVFLoyrx

    There have been modifications to some of those dungeons since, because many of the indicators did not exist back when the guides were made and in MSQ-required dungeons, some mechanics have changed.

    The truth is that those indicators and the easing of the difficulty of dungeons over the years has led to a point where dungeon guides just don't matter as much. Mechanics used to be designed where you had to hover over status effects and die several times to figure them out, whereas now they are designed to be obvious at a glance so that you don't need to die to them or read status effects.

    Once you know what an indicator means, you know it for the next 80 dungeons that come after it as well. There didn't used to be these indicators and in the optional/sidequest level 50 dungeons, many of those indicators are still missing. Some of them are missing in level 60 dungeons as well. But in level 70 dungeons you will just find a lot more in the way of indicators even in sidequest dungeons.

    If the dungeon is required for the MSQ, you can do it with Duty Support (npcs) and they do all of the mechanics. In this way, the npcs teach you the mechanics.

    There is also a good summary of a lot of mechanics at https://imgur.com/a/c9oxF1d but it doesn't include any added after 2019. But for level 50 it should cover universal mechanics that come up over and over again.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    -snip-
    The imgur gallery is a fairly spoiler-free version of the video I posted so I'mma endorse that.

    The MTQ video guides are extremely old and the gallery you linked only goes up to Snowcloak. Frankly, I do not recommend them for being outdated and basically providing more info than asked for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    If you haven't figured various markers out... you can ask here. Simply tell us what dungeon and what boss you were struggling with and describe what they did.

    There is also a video on youtube, however SPOILER WARNING - the video is quite comprehensive and will likely show you a lot of enemies you will fight on your way.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CceE5f...Fya2Vycw%3D%3D
    thx I will watch the video
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    Dungeons are all straight lines of mob pulls until a boss who does very obvious things you can react to and don't need to know what to do before it happens.

    And this is true for almost every single dungeon.
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    The MTQ video guides are extremely old
    I mentioned that.

    the gallery you linked only goes up to Snowcloak.
    Not true. They go up to mechanics from 2019 (specifically to right before 5.0 released). They don't reference specific dungeons, but rather common mechanics that are seen multiple times in the game.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown: