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    Xirean's Avatar
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    Xirean Summit
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshinoharu View Post
    They inherently lose value if they can be obtained with no real effort.
    The value is that they look pretty and nothing else. If you think they lose value because everyone is able to get what they subjectively like on their character then good, devalue it more by backtracking all the old ones onto newer jobs.
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    Haru Yoshino
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    The value is that they look pretty and nothing else. If you think they lose value because everyone is able to get what they subjectively like on their character then good, devalue it more by backtracking all the old ones onto newer jobs.
    Even taking away the glow, I do firmly believe that to get nice things in the game there should be effort involved. It's an argument that runs way deeper than just the glow itself. Rewards in general, regardless of what they actually are, are just worth less if they are easy to get. Milestones, achievements, progression as a player should all be rewarded with nice things and players that want those nice things should be thinking "Oh, I want to be a better player so that I can earn those things" instead of "Man they should just let me buy those with tomestones."

    That's my point.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by yoshinoharu View Post
    Even taking away the glow, I do firmly believe that to get nice things in the game there should be effort involved. It's an argument that runs way deeper than just the glow itself. Rewards in general, regardless of what they actually are, are just worth less if they are easy to get. Milestones, achievements, progression as a player should all be rewarded with nice things and players that want those nice things should be thinking "Oh, I want to be a better player so that I can earn those things" instead of "Man they should just let me buy those with tomestones."

    That's my point.
    A scathing argument against the existence of relics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Lilimo Limomo
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    With respect, I think the only problem here is that your brain is trying to make a connection between "glowing" and "super special". That may have been the case at one point, but we've clearly moved on from that into a world where anyone can have a glowing weapon. And that's a better world to live in, because glowing is something a lot of people enjoy. Let the everygamer have their shinies.

    As an informed player, you have the knowledge required to distinguish what weapons actually required some manner of great feat to earn; you don't need to rely on a glowing effect to tell you that.
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    Bunbun Thurm
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    Lamia
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    I think this thread is a pretty clear reason as to why we have so many glowy weapons.
    People like it.
    People want it.
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    Beatrix Steinner
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    Red Mage Lv 91
    Um… relics have always had multiple glowing stages, and primal weapons have always had their crafted/upgrade glow. This is 90% of glowing weapons now… theres just more expansions so more weapons. The only real additions are ultimafe weapons and the new criterion weapon. Even pvp and the ilvl110 weapons glowed in ARR. lol
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    Gullis Hil
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    White Mage Lv 100
    not a fan of glow myself. I wish I could toggle them off most of the time. current MCH relic is perfect example of this
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullis View Post
    not a fan of glow myself. I wish I could toggle them off most of the time. current MCH relic is perfect example of this
    What, this mess?



    Which is unfortunate because it's a pretty nice minigun under all that.

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    Gullis Hil
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    What, this mess?



    Which is unfortunate because it's a pretty nice minigun under all that.

    yes exactly that mess, plz give me regular minigun D:
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    What, this mess?



    Which is unfortunate because it's a pretty nice minigun under all that.

    Wait, I only have a level 50 machinist, when do we get miniguns?!?
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