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    6.51 Splendorous Tools Final Upgrade - Lodestar Crafting Tools

    Just got my first final upgrade of the Splendorous tool - Lodestar crafting tools.

    Once again, there are 2 steps of enhancement. Both involves 20 crafts on Expert Recipes. You can't macro these. However, anyone who has been keeping up with the latest crafting game of Expert Recipes would find these to be quite easy. I did fail 3 times out of the total 40 crafts in my journey for the Lodestar Saw, mostly due to some crazy 8+ Hasty/Rapid failure streaks. But otherwise, nothing too challenging, especially the first enhancement, which is very lenient to failed actions.

    Regarding the stats and the appearance, I am not that impressed with both, but at least they are not bad.

    i640 with a ton of stats including 7 CP but no slots for melds. The bonus effect remains at 1.75x on Good... no further improvement.

    When sheathed, it's not on our back, but on our side only.
    It has a transition in color - from gold to blue and back to gold, and has some special glow, which is quite nice. But overall, it's rather subtle in the glow.





    Despite the tools with no pleasant surprises, the Grenoldt and Rowen's story was actually LOVABLE! <3
    They had some really heart-warming cutscenes which I am not gonna spoil here. So make sure you don't skip those! Enjoy!
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    I had prepared a number of those lv 90 crafted materials (chondrite ingots, Integral Lumber etc) in anticipation of the upgrades, only for the materials to be raw. Nice trolling SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Just got my first final upgrade of the Splendorous tool - Lodestar crafting tools.

    Once again, there are 2 steps of enhancement. Both involves 20 crafts on Expert Recipes. You can't macro these.
    First step can be macro'd to at least minimum rating with fully melded Afflatus (plus Brilliant main hand) or better and HQ Tsai/Cunning Draught (draught can be NQ).

    I played around a bit and created a set with 3874 Craftsmanship (2 Competence X), 3626 Control (9 Command X) and 561 CP (5 Cunning X - use on legs, feet, earring, neck, bracelet). After using HQ Tsai and HQ Cunning Draught, total stats were 3874/3702/660.

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <wait.2>
    /ac Veneration <wait.2>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>

    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>

    Without playing with conditions, the craft ended at Progress 6637/6600, quality/rating 7836/15368 with 6 CP left over (or 2 left if NQ draught). Someone over 4190 Craftsmanship would need to insert Final Appraisal before the 4th Groundwork to keep it from finishing too soon.

    I haven't gotten around to playing with the final step yet but I imagine it should also be possible to macro for minimum required rating using Afflatus with the Vrandic tool though the melds might need to be tweaked a little compared to what I used.

    edit: on the Final Step I keep coming up a Careful Synthesis short of minimum rating after switching from Tsai to Biryani and changing melds a bit to get more CP. Considering that's with no Conditions assumed, there's a decent chance of still being able to finish the craft if any of the following occurred:

    lucky Rapid Synthesis (possible 2 attempts at end)
    have 25 durability and 14 CP left (2 Careful Synth plus 1 Basic Synth)
    have 35 durability and 7 CP left (1 Careful Synth plus 3 Basic Synth)
    have 15 Durability and 32 CP left (Veneration plus 2 Careful Synth)

    For this situation, the stats before HQ Biryani and draught were 3820/3590/583, or 3820/3680/690 after

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <wait.2>
    /ac Veneration <wait.2>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>

    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>

    Note that ends at Byregot so the final synthesis can be chosen to fit the remaining CP and Durability. There should be a minimum of 7 CP and 15 Durability remaining after Byregot.

    The sticking point for the final step is you must get 10 IQ stacks for Byregot to get you to the minimum needed rating if you have no Good procs and less than 4060 Control after food/draught. Even then it could take 1-4 Goods to reach minimum depending on which Touch step they occurred.

    All of the above assumes the crafter is only using Afflatus plus the needed tool and has no desire to swap out a couple of pieces for HQ Indagator to overmeld.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 11-02-2023 at 06:08 AM.

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    Just completed the ALC one. RNGesus really had it out for me towards the end with the many fail streaks and conditions that I could do nothing with without booming it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHOJ View Post
    I had prepared a number of those lv 90 crafted materials (chondrite ingots, Integral Lumber etc) in anticipation of the upgrades, only for the materials to be raw. Nice trolling SE.
    Yup! I was also preparing some HQ mats earlier, but I didn't excessively do it, so it was fine...
    And to think about it more deeply, I guess one could say it's not a troll... After all, ALL expert recipes do not allow the use of HQ mats in the first place, right? So if we expected Expert Recipes here, we would have expected not to be able to use our HQ mats. Although, I thought they would at least allow HQ mats for the 5th enhancement, and only doing Expert Recipes for the final enhancement... I didn't expect BOTH steps to be Expert Recipes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    SNIP
    Thanks, Jojo. But with so little collectability, I think I'll just stick to manual crafting for now...

    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    Just completed the ALC one. RNGesus really had it out for me towards the end with the many fail streaks and conditions that I could do nothing with without booming it.
    Yeah it happens... I just had 1 run with 14 fails... Nothing I could do to help it. But otherwise, it seems to me that manual crafting is still more efficient than macro crafting... total time is less and fewer mats are needed. But, you gotta manually do it, which to some ppl is a hassle comparing to macro. I'm fine with manual crafting though.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Thanks, Jojo. But with so little collectability, I think I'll just stick to manual crafting for now...
    Oh, definitely. That's for the benefit of players who aren't comfortable with Expert but still want to complete the tools.
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    So I found a bit of a happy medium between macro and manual crafting that has me getting mostly 2nd tier result with more 3rd tier than 1st tier. On average, I'm needing about 28 select materials per tool.

    TLDR;
    Macro up until the "finisher" when you'd use Innovation->(some other stuff)->Great Strides-> Byregots. Then bait for Good Omen by burning your extra CP/durability.

    Slightly more detail:
    When you are up to what your macro would assume is your last Innovation, look at your CP/Durability. If you had any luck with Pliants and Sturdies and Malleables, you likely will either have extra steps to use (from having more durability) and/or the ability to use a few more touches. All of this adds not only to your quality but also to the odds that you'll see a Good Omen while Innovation is up. Use Great Strides during Good Omen and enjoy getting to 3rd tier more often with a "mostly macro'd" rotation.

    Another thing is... if you are going to try and utilize the extra CP... then actually get the extra CP. Take, for example, the rotation listed above for the last tool. Add Tricks of the Trade (ToT) in certain steps:

    MM
    ToT
    Manipulation
    WN2
    Veneration
    GNDWx2
    Final Appraisal (in case a Malleable has shown up)
    GNDWx2
    Preparatory Touch
    Basic Touch
    Standard Touch
    ToT
    Manipulation
    ToT
    Innovation
    Basic Touch
    Standard Touch
    Advanced Touch
    Prudent Touch
    Prudent Touch
    ToT
    --- Innovation would be here ---
    The idea is to only use those Goods for ToT on a step when your macro would only be using a buff such as Manipulation, Innovation, etc. So nothing is "lost." Goods that land on touches is great.

    When I do that macro with crafting stats roughly at 4100/4100/716 with food, at the bare minimum, I get to the end of that macro with 114 CP, effectively 30 durability and 640 progress short.

    With 110 CP, I'm going to use Innovation (18) Basic Touch (18), Great Strides (32), and Byregot's (24) - leaving 18 for Prudent Synthesis and Basic Synthesis. That leaves me with only 4CP to spare.

    If I get to 18 CP extra, I can insert another Basic Touch in there. If I get to 36 CP extra, that's two Basic Touches in there. If I get to 68 CP extra (which is quite possible with Pliants and ToT usage... I wind up using a Basic Touch before using Innovation. Then Basic Touch, Trained Finesse (since I don't have durability to spare).

    There's the other possibility that you only need 1 Basic Synthesis to finish (any Malleable in the Groundwork steps results in that). If that's the case, you can even burn that extra durability on a Hasty Touch if you don't have any CP to spare.

    Another thing that I found very handy to do:

    If you are on a specialist, you can use some Careful Observations to bait a Good/Good Omen. Depending on how many steps you have left of Innovation/Great Strides, you could also burn CP on Observe to try and get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    The idea is to only use those Goods for ToT on a step when your macro would only be using a buff such as Manipulation, Innovation, etc. So nothing is "lost." Goods that land on touches is great.
    That's great suggestion for those who prefer to rely on a macro for most of the process. Thanks for adding!
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    Dear SE:

    Why isn't there a title for completing all of these tools like the Skysteel tools from last expansion? It was a bit of a let-down.
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    Well... for the first time in my life, I decided to record videos of myself doing Expert Recipes...
    So I google searched, and found Windows 10 actually has a thing called "Game Bar", and I decided to give it a shot...

    I then created a channel on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CaimieTsukino), and posted those videos there...

    Caimie Tsukino doing Expert Recipes in Final Fantasy XIV Patch 6.51 2023-11-05 (Part 1) (5th enhancement):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNral3njbHw

    Part 2 (5th enhancement):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLqE6KV8cao

    Part 3 (Final enhancement):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFH9H6bb46U

    Part 4 (Final enhancement):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iMO41APJUc

    Part 5 (Final enhancement):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-ayYl5PKM

    I guess the problem is, I didn't include any explanations to how to made my decisions on the buttons... Also, every time when I opened my calculator on the screen to do math, the calculator didn't show up in the videos...

    It'd be great if I can add some words on the screen during the video to explain how I arrived at this decisions, and perhaps if I play around Game Bar a bit more, I'll figure out how to display the calculator too. If you guys can give me some pointers, that'd be great! Thanks!
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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