Fall Guys event feedback

[Shougun]

Ah, the time old third party conversation lol. I said it like 10 years ago in the forums but I think we should have had addons because it's inescapable.. Though I understand 'why' people are reticent, but.. like.. you're NOT getting away from it lol. I checked the list of mods again since this post triggered it, the vast vast majority are still aggressively attempting to not cause issues for other players* but they're far smarter than last time I saw. Obviously we know of WoW's but you should see the modules in some of GW2, the guided zone paths look (ui clutter) pretty crazy lol.

I think if people actually were able to create a 100% unassisted MMO you'd see A LOT less people actually doing hard (group) content lol. Just as an aside thought. Naturally getting first place in a competitive setting is unfortunate, though I do feel the achievement itself is in poor taste given the FOMO and quantity required. I doubt we'd have this if it wasn't for that, and I think even if we didn't have the third party issue we have right now that I still think that specific achievement shouldn't have been made as it is what I would consider is a predatory achievement. Which I don't say out of great malice, if it reads like that, just.. well like I said lol "poor taste".

* What I find unfortunate is because it's not allowed to be in the open is you're getting people who are assisting their gameplay (which I don't really care about) will cause the whole world first scene to be distorted, make the devs feel the need to develop harder content, and make some players overexaggerate their skill and complain about challenge. Easier to control if you're in control of the primary system.. There were issues with this in WoW before they clamped down on some of the info addons could use, as it was having an obvious impact on the devs and therefore the players.

I get there is no best solution, but /shrug.. I felt we could have avoided some of this have / have nots if it was just internalized. I doubt you can ever actually escape this stuff unless you're planning on making your game officially spyware.

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My feedback for the event in general: it's a general feeling for some other content too (like Blue Mage carnival and Lords of Verminion) but I wish there were less pauses between all the fun, I like to go go go . Between stage 1 and 2 of a blue level is a load screen @_@, same with LoV, and vaguely similar long panning scenes for fall guy.

I actually had fun and mostly was able to play well, but I find the last level to just be a visual mess where weirdly holding W the entire time is the best strategy.. so weird. You can do best in the last level just by going YOLO :/. I have had a few mismatched telegraphs and have learned to adjust, but I do wish the telegrpahs were far more accurate. I also would appreciate some improved notice to some of the debuffs better letting you know what it'll do (I know what the dice mean, but I feel they don't telegraph very well and you just have to learn what the heck dice means, the arrow thing is another one, the whirlwind is a cool idea but something to help know how it works more quickly would be nice like arrows directing your facing direction and the direction the whirlwind is going). I know it's a fall guy thing but I would appreciate if you failed that you could keep playing in the next round or create an easier to access leave button so I don't have to watch a bunch of nonsense to get into the next game lol.

*One way to pre-teach buffs is perhaps in the loading zone, where people wait for 24 members, there are spaces where you can get debuff'd or perhaps see mechanics that maybe should be taught in advance.

[NekoMataMata]

The difference is when articles are written. If you can make enough of a stir that IGN and Kotaku write articles about "FFXIV players are outraged at fall guys event cheating", then they will do something.

Not to delve into conspiracy theories, but the main two XIV subreddits were pretty stirred up about it for a week at least and no articles were written. I've never really seen any IGN/Kotaku articles mention failings on SE's part. Writing about cheating on this level would definitely be slightly humiliating towards SE since they wouldn't be able to say it's a smaller group of players. Even when articles were written about EW's relic series and how a lot of players seemed dissatisfied with that, most of the articles blamed the players.

There's not a single person here that has the influence to actually change anything.

[Stormpeaks]

The difference is when articles are written. If you can make enough of a stir that IGN and Kotaku write articles about "FFXIV players are outraged at fall guys event cheating", then they will do something.

They actually won't do anything, IGN article or not, hint hint, because they don't want to. It's been years people, if they wanted to it'd be done by now.

[Absurdity]

I think if people actually were able to create a 100% unassisted MMO you'd see A LOT less people actually doing hard (group) content lol.

It really doesn't help that CBU3 seems to be allergic to actually giving us concrete information.

Why are our stat panels filled with vague nonsense explanations?
Why do we basically need 3rd party tools just to find out how much % crit we have? Or how much of a stat we need to increase percentages?
Why do I need to spend 5 minutes sifting through my combat log to find out what just killed me?

Sure, right now I can just look those things up on some external website, but where do you think they got that information from?

[Saraide]

It really doesn't help that CBU3 seems to be allergic to actually giving us concrete information.

Why are our stat panels filled with vague nonsense explanations?
Why do we basically need 3rd party tools just to find out how much % crit we have? Or how much of a stat we need to increase percentages?
Why do I need to spend 5 minutes sifting through my combat log to find out what just killed me?

Sure, right now I can just look those things up on some external website, but where do you think they got that information from?

Even the information if an enemy attack deals physical or magical damage was unavailable ingame for a very long time.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Not to delve into conspiracy theories, but the main two XIV subreddits were pretty stirred up about it for a week at least and no articles were written. I've never really seen any IGN/Kotaku articles mention failings on SE's part. Writing about cheating on this level would definitely be slightly humiliating towards SE since they wouldn't be able to say it's a smaller group of players. Even when articles were written about EW's relic series and how a lot of players seemed dissatisfied with that, most of the articles blamed the players.

There's not a single person here that has the influence to actually change anything.

There absolutely is something that we can do.
Media is very predictable nowadays. It also lies a lot and will pick up stories without even confirming the source first. All it needs is someone to start it. Becoming an independent journalist has never been easier than today. Just have to make the article a little click baity and as long as it gathers attention, media outlets will bring in the story.
At least that's how some US/Canadian media companies work.
They can afford to slander since all their writers are outsourced and can just be let go if the article gets too much hate.

[Tuchkin]

So im not post anything on forum often, but let's talk about this... blundershit.

This "brilliant" piece of gaming looks like:

Oh, new event, lets look...

Am... what is this?
- acid colors
- creepy music
- dummy nps with a lot of blablabla

Ok, let start - register.
- wait for 2 (two) minutes
Ah... ok... duty finder sometimes takes longer...
- wait for 10 seconds
Um... ok...
- Watch unskippable cutscene
Grrrr...
-wait 10 second
GRRRRRR....

Ok... run... and lose.
Im using a xbox controller with analog stick for char movement control.
Its almost impossible to run through.

Ok... shit happens sometimes...

- Watch unskippable cutscene
- wait for next round
"You may watch as a spectator" - are you crazy? im lost and upset already? let me out!
Press LEAVE
- Watch unskippable cutscene
PRESS LEAVE
- Watch unskippable cutscene
PRESS SKIP
- Watch unskippable cutscene
!!!!!PRESS LEAVE!!!!!!!
- Watch unskippable cutscene

Alt+F4 - ragequit.
Till next day.

I think author of this brilliant shit of gaming must be fired immediately.

[Grizzlpaw]

I hate when PvE co-op games put cosmetics behind competetive events.

70 tries in and not one win.

Every game you're vs 3-6 players who do all the
mechanics perfectly. I got pretty good at round 1 but I can never win 2 and havent seen 3 yet.

Even tho I rarely fail mechanics I have to slow down sometimes to let things resolve. Meanwhile the few other players are gunning it towards the finish line at mach 10.

People are too good. No skill based matchmaking to give slower players a shot. Most matches I quit out after 1 mistake because its a near-guaranteed loss. (Especially on the whirling section).

Wish this had a solo option. So I could learn at my own pace.

Tl;dr im frustrated and salty.

[Erzaa]

I hate when PvE co-op games put cosmetics behind competetive events.

70 tries in and not one win.

Every game you're vs 3-6 players who do all the
mechanics perfectly. I got pretty good at round 1 but I can never win 2 and havent seen 3 yet.

Even tho I rarely fail mechanics I have to slow down sometimes to let things resolve. Meanwhile the few other players are gunning it towards the finish line at mach 10.

People are too good. No skill based matchmaking to give slower players a shot. Most matches I quit out after 1 mistake because its a near-guaranteed loss. (Especially on the whirling section).

Wish this had a solo option. So I could learn at my own pace.

Tl;dr im frustrated and salty.

You'll get to stage 3. Eventually you'll be getting to stage 3 consistently. Winning though, yup that's not easy. I managed two wins I think and that's only because I was put into a solo lobby.

[Aneshda]

WoW 44 Pages about Fall Guys. You should have listened to Aunty Deidrea and do it the lazy Way. Join Fall Guys, wait till you got your Reward and Hit Leave fast enough. Repeat it.
Made that the first 2 days like that and after I had enough to buy me all Rewards for all my Chars ... the Fall Guys never saw me again.