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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryotsune View Post
    Personally, i see the cheating as a consequence about putting a very difficult achievement which can only be progressed by 1 person per game because it's just a reaction to a frustrated mind, which in some way i can understand, this achievement is stupid by nature and in contradiction with Gold Saucer achievements (JACTA afaik only require max 10 victories).

    But that's not a reason to cheat because it'll just make other people giving up before even trying.

    I keep hammering this but SE, reward participation ! At least it'll give less reasons to cheat if you remove the frustration source.
    Cheating always has been, and always will be attributed to laziness. I'm not even sure if I'll even run this anymore after looking at Deceptus' previous post. That just ripped all the fun right out, leaving just frustration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Cheating always has been, and always will be attributed to laziness. I'm not even sure if I'll even run this anymore after looking at Deceptus' previous post. That just ripped all the fun right out, leaving just frustration.
    "oh no this absolutely terrible gamemode with a completely broken netcode that makes some people entirely unable to win at all has cheaters now, oh nooooo!"
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    I won without using it.

    You can make excuses all day long. It doesn't change that cheaters are lazy. Everyone has to deal with the shotty netcode, so the playing field is even. Cheaters take that away, along with truly taking away your shot to win. Your argument has no weight and indicative of low intellect. Lose my post please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post

    Everyone has to deal with the shotty netcode, so the playing field is even.

    I think this is the part that people are forgetting. Yes, the netcode is bad. That is how this game has been though. These issues can't be attributed to the event itself. The Fall guys event is fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillon0_o View Post
    It shouldn't be wins for the title it should be rounds played or something.
    But then how will people know I'm really good at it? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Cheating always has been, and always will be attributed to laziness. I'm not even sure if I'll even run this anymore after looking at Deceptus' previous post. That just ripped all the fun right out, leaving just frustration.
    For sure it won't remove the cheating issue. But allowing people to progress on their own is still better than trying to cast dice against a dude who's using loaded dice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Cheating always has been, and always will be attributed to laziness.
    Final Fantasy XIV is by far the most modder-friendly MMO. Because Square Enix has no oversight over the API, a single plugin can remove all challenge from any content. Everything from combat to movement can be fully automated. And, according to the forums, if SE cracked down, "most people would leave" (source: the forums). So is it really laziness or just a feature? Because as far as I can see, Square Enix's ignorance is by design. Their neglect has given FFXIV one of the most powerful modding APIs in online gaming with zero repercussions.

    This isn't secret either. It's all over the Internet. It's on Reddit, Google, Twitter, the forums, etc. When is Square Enix going to do something?
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    Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 11-07-2023 at 04:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Final Fantasy XIV is by far the most modder-friendly MMO. Because Square Enix has no oversight over the API, a single plugin can remove all challenge from any content. Everything from combat to movement can be fully automated. And, according to the forums, if SE cracked down, "most people would leave" (source: the forums). So is it really laziness or just a feature? Because as far as I can see, Square Enix's ignorance is by design. Their neglect has given FFXIV one of the most powerful modding APIs in online gaming with zero repercussions.

    This isn't secret either. It's all over the Internet. It's on Reddit, Google, Twitter, the forums, etc. When is Square Enix going to do something?
    You act like Deadly Boss Mods didn't dominate WoW for a decade.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    You act like Deadly Boss Mods didn't dominate WoW for a decade.
    Strawman. The WoW API is restricted in what it can do. It cannot alter client/server packets, minimize your rotation, change assets, or change the environment. Ours does, because it's unregulated. The Fall Guys fiasco? That isn't possible in WoW. And while our usage rate is lower than WoW due to console players, the most popular plugins have still been downloaded millions of times on PC. This is an unregulated, unsafe and unfair API that millions of players have used and Square Enix just lets it happen.
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