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    sindriiisgaming's Avatar
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    Is it against TOS to take 30 minute penalty inside a duty

    tried asking this in NN only to get attacked and accused of things left and right, nobody gave a really clear cut answer, somebody said yes, somebody said no, somebody said "yea but only if" so im wondering if you guys know for a fact.

    They decided to report my account for breaking TOS rule "intentionally leaving a game" just before kicking me from said NN, and im wondering is it actually against TOS to leave a duty thats already started via taking a 30 minute penalty. Im not referring to Disconnecting, just to leaving after you get the item you need, or if you get a dungeon you dont enjoy, or if things arent going well after 20+ minutes.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Exiting the duty is fine: that's what the penalty is for. Disconnecting or just AFKing to fish for a kick to avoid the penalty would be considered an abuse of the system because it lets you avoid the punishment that you should be getting for leaving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Exiting the duty is fine: that's what the penalty is for. Disconnecting or just AFKing to fish for a kick to avoid the penalty would be considered an abuse of the system because it lets you avoid the punishment that you should be getting for leaving.
    This. This. This.

    The 30 minute ban is your punishment for leaving the duty early. Obviously I'd recommend staying until the end, but there's nothing stopping you. Just don't brag about it and nothing can be done to you.
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    What a strange was to ask if abandoning a duty is against the TOS. Feels like you're trying to create drama with this.
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    Easley Lighthalzen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    What a strange was to ask if abandoning a duty is against the TOS. Feels like you're trying to create drama with this.
    Feels like ragebait for an obvious answer.

    The 30-min cooldown is your penalty. It's just a game. You will not be forced to play a duty you don't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    What a strange was to ask if abandoning a duty is against the TOS. Feels like you're trying to create drama with this.
    Least cynical forums user.
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    Friel Wyndor
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    I think the answer is "it depends." The circumstances of when you leave the duty, and why (if a GM can determine that), do matter. However, they do say you can land in hot water if you leave right after entering a duty (ex: if you get a dungeon you don't enjoy). So, yeah. Try not to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    What a strange was to ask if abandoning a duty is against the TOS. Feels like you're trying to create drama with this.
    Some players want reassurance it's okay to leave a duty they don't enjoy at the very start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    I think the answer is "it depends."
    Correct. If reported, the GMs are going to look at anything that was said or done to see if there was an intent to be disruptive to the party or if the report itself might have been retaliatory/malicious for some reason.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    I think the answer is "it depends." The circumstances of when you leave the duty, and why (if a GM can determine that), do matter. However, they do say you can land in hot water if you leave right after entering a duty (ex: if you get a dungeon you don't enjoy). So, yeah. Try not to do that.
    I dunno about that. I've immediately left LotA, ST and WoD multiple times and have never been banned/sent to gaol. Players should be allowed to leave something they don't enjoy, rather than being forced to go through it under threat of potential ban/gaoling.
    Now if I intentionally DC'd or asked to be kicked after 5 minutes have passed, then yes: that's a bannable offence.

    When it says "intentional leaving," it means exiting/logging out of the game.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 10-31-2023 at 03:01 AM.

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    I'd say no, there's any number of reasons that someone could elect to leave, including just simply not enjoying the instance you got in roulette, and the penalty is punishment enough. I've had to leave instances without warning because of things that were happening IRL, but someone could very easily take that the wrong way and think that I deserved to be reported. In order for it to be reportable, there'd need to be something in the ToS about leaving an instance or you would have to argue for it being lethargic play, which inscribes intent that you may not even know about of the player leaving.
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