next to the rest of the raids in the relevant patches/expansions they are really badly made.They applied the fix that everyone said would fix it.
Some people feel they get the other raids more now. Some like yourself feel they don't. So what more is there to say? If you don't want to do alliance raids then don't do the alliance roulette.
Also, you said the first 3 were made badly. They were not. They are really great raids, our item level just outgear them and make the mechanics irrelevant. If you ever did them in ARR or minimum item level, you'd understand how sophisticated and full of mechanics they are and how they can actually wipe, or near-wipe, the whole alliance.
as for the fix its clearly did not fix shit. they need to move this 3 raids to a different roulette.
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