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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You said “what’s the point of playing a fantasy race with cat ears if you can’t show off the cat ears” I replied with the fact that I’m indifferent to the cat ears because that’s not why i play miqote, I’m not saying they shouldn’t be an option but you seem weirdly opposed to the idea that other people don’t care about physical racial features as much as you seem to
    I'm opposed to things that take away the physical traits of a race without the option of bringing them back. I find it extremely weird that people find that to be a point I have to defend. If people want to have more character creation options such as having the body that Miqote has without the cat bits or to pick and choose cat bits then that's cool, but that's not what this thread is about. It's about gear deleting racial features because the devs didn't make that feature part of said piece of gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I'm opposed to things that take away the physical traits of a race without the option of bringing them back. I find it extremely weird that people find that to be a point I have to defend. If people want to have more character creation options such as having the body that Miqote has without the cat bits or to pick and choose cat bits then that's cool, but that's not what this thread is about. It's about gear deleting racial features because the devs didn't make that feature part of said piece of gear.
    Which is a fair point, but that’s not what you said in your argument, the post I originally quoted you said “what’s the point of playing a fantasy race with cat ears if you don’t want to see the cat ears” which is a binary “either you have to support the cat ears or don’t play miqote”, I’m also in support of hide or or view depending on what you want and what the actual item is but binary statements that basically ignore people who play miqote for other reasons besides just the ears and tail is just pointless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Which is a fair point, but that’s not what you said in your argument, the post I originally quoted you said “what’s the point of playing a fantasy race with cat ears if you don’t want to see the cat ears” which is a binary “either you have to support the cat ears or don’t play miqote”, I’m also in support of hide or or view depending on what you want and what the actual item is but binary statements that basically ignore people who play miqote for other reasons besides just the ears and tail is just pointless
    That line you quoted was in response to someone playing a Hyur saying "I would prefer no ears at all". If you don't care about the cat ears, that's fine, but I'm going to give pushback to statements that imply removing the cat ears from others. The only scenario I would be ok with that is if toggles were added to have or not have those physical traits for gear or to have more options in character create to have or not have those traits.

    “either you have to support the cat ears or don’t play miqote”,
    This is partially along the lines of what I was trying to say. If you don't want those physical traits then why play the race? Baring toggles or unspoken tools, those are part of the character model. Taking them off effectively means you are just playing Hyur. So why not just play Hyur?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    That line you quoted was in response to someone playing a Hyur saying "I would prefer no ears at all". If you don't care about the cat ears, that's fine, but I'm going to give pushback to statements that imply removing the cat ears from others. The only scenario I would be ok with that is if toggles were added to have or not have those physical traits for gear or to have more options in character create to have or not have those traits.


    This is partially along the lines of what I was trying to say. If you don't want those physical traits then why play the race? Baring toggles or unspoken tools, those are part of the character model. Taking them off effectively means you are just playing Hyur. So why not just play Hyur?
    you are ether twisting my words or incapable of critical thinking enough to realize i was talking about hats, you know the entire subject of the thread? do i need to use pictures? take your virtue signal and shove it.

    i can love my cat and still want to cover his hears for fashion, you are not the arbiter of the race and quite frankly your opinion on what makes a fan of it are jaded and shallow as your point.

    and you know that i only said i prefer no ears on hats after i tried to find middle ground and you shot me down and told me you only want hats with ears present with no compromise. go threw my history if you want, i suggested a toggle before you ever started on about it as a flip flop save face opinion.
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    Last edited by Mostly_Raxus; 02-19-2024 at 04:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    you are ether twisting my words or incapable of critical thinking enough to realize i was talking about hats, you know the entire subject of the thread? do i need to use pictures? take your virtue signal and shove it.

    i can love my cat and still want to cover his hears for fashion, you are not the arbiter of the race and quite frankly your opinion on what makes a fan of it are jaded and shallow as your point.

    and you know that i only said i prefer no ears on hats after i tried to find middle ground and you shot me down and told me you only want hats with ears present with no compromise. go threw my history if you want, i suggested a toggle before you ever started on about it as a flip flop save face opinion.
    There you go again trying to make personal attacks rather than having a constructive conversation. I asked you a clarifying question and you decided to make up reasons to insult me. As I already stated, I'm going to give pushback to statements that imply removing racial traits from others.
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    when you act like a spoiled child you are treated like one..

    your argument is the equivalent of saying all black people should only wear Dashikis.

    I'm sorry the race only exists to you when its a living stereotype of its self.
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    Last edited by Mostly_Raxus; 02-19-2024 at 05:34 AM.