The "tenacity" Problem (other melds aswell)

[Rithy255]

I would just rework DH, Tenacity, and Piety to all increase DH, along with an additional role specific effect. It's unfortunate that there's no 'Mastery' equivalent stat that works on a job-specific basis.

Skill Speed and Spell Speed should also be reworked into a single Haste stat. If it's not possible to merge the two stats, just change the effect such that they both act on Weaponskills and Spells.

Yeah this would be fine, I rather tenacity be actually more role specific and work as more of a "tank" stat, but theirs certainly issues with viability and usefulness (because dps is plainly more important anyway), I think what you suggested is better then just tenacity being a meme stat that doesn't barely even effect tanks defensive value anyway. (like current tenacity)

Skill/spell merged would just be great in general aswell, It's really frustrating getting gear with skill speed on PLD.

[RoboYumi]

Id personally like to see Tenacity's damage scaling improve significantly, and while it already gives a lot of effects, just at very small ratios, its not very noticeable.

- Higher damage multiplier, though still less than DET.
- increased HP and healing received
- Damage reduction, even the same as it is now

Its not that bad, its just "not optimal" and so it feels bad in general; I dont think it needs major changes, as a result. Even just nerfing Crit melds would be sufficient to make Det/Ten builds potentially happen. Substats need a major change in 7.0 anyway, its been rather stagnant for a while

[Rithy255]

Id personally like to see Tenacity's damage scaling improve significantly, and while it already gives a lot of effects, just at very small ratios, its not very noticeable.

- Higher damage multiplier, though still less than DET.
- increased HP and healing received
- Damage reduction, even the same as it is now

Its not that bad, its just "not optimal" and so it feels bad in general; I dont think it needs major changes, as a result. Even just nerfing Crit melds would be sufficient to make Det/Ten builds potentially happen. Substats need a major change in 7.0 anyway, its been rather stagnant for a while

I think I like the Idea of Tenacity just giving DH (The same amount as base level DH) so theirs no a reason to really meld DH and theirs way more reason to meld tenacity.
But I would much prefer something like a rework of melding anyway.