Savage Clear Rates Of Japan, North America And Europe: A Cultural Difference

[WeebPolice]

Another Renathras post

Citizen, what do you get out of doing this?



We protect what is ours.

[Swordsman]

Citizen, what do you get out of doing this?



We protect what is ours.

Nah, it's not him lol. Threneras is a Titanman alt, lmao.

[WeebPolice]

Nah, it's not him lol. Threneras is a Titanman alt, lmao.

Ah, that makes sense, citizen.




Remember the fallen.

[SieyaM]

Honestly, troll post and all aside, the biggest thing besides my lower end performance keeping me from trying savage is having to join "SuPeR LeEt RaIdErZ" discord server to voice chat to join a group. That and some of these groups have crazy demands on people's time, my FC put together what it called a casual raid group and it was about 4 hours a week of practice before the 6 hour raiding session on the weekend. that's a pretty big part of a Saturday that I may not want to commit to clearing a raid every week.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Honestly, troll post and all aside, the biggest thing besides my lower end performance keeping me from trying savage is having to join "SuPeR LeEt RaIdErZ" discord server to voice chat to join a group. That and some of these groups have crazy demands on people's time, my FC put together what it called a casual raid group and it was about 4 hours a week of practice before the 6 hour raiding session on the weekend. that's a pretty big part of a Saturday that I may not want to commit to clearing a raid every week.

That is not casual lol. We do 2.5 hours a night 3 nights a week. When we have to pug someone, we provide the discord as an option, for easier communication, but its not required. Even if people join, we don't expect them to talk, that's 100% up to them.

[SieyaM]

That is not casual lol. We do 2.5 hours a night 3 nights a week. When we have to pug someone, we provide the discord as an option, for easier communication, but its not required. Even if people join, we don't expect them to talk, that's 100% up to them.

That's still 8 hours a week that is being dedicated to raiding and nothing else in game, that's only 2 hours less than the casual group in my FC.

[TaleraRistain]

That is not casual lol. We do 2.5 hours a night 3 nights a week. When we have to pug someone, we provide the discord as an option, for easier communication, but its not required. Even if people join, we don't expect them to talk, that's 100% up to them.

Our healers are married and she listens through his Discord but she's rarely in there herself. And it's about 10% callouts and 90% talking about random crap while we go through the pieces we already know. We also do the same with offering Discord if we need a pug, and our raid schedule is 3 nights a week for 2 hours each. I wouldn't call 10 hours a week, especially with one large day, casual at all either.

[Jeeqbit]

having to join "SuPeR LeEt RaIdErZ" discord server to voice chat to join a group.

There are website methods of static recruitment, such as reddit and XIVRecruit. When they invite you to their discord server, most of the time it's going to be a tiny server with 7-25 people in. And many of them do not require you to use voice. Even many PUGs that join discord don't require voice. They usually just do it so the 1 or 2 people who want to talk can do callouts and anyone else who wants to talk can.

That and some of these groups have crazy demands on people's time, my FC put together what it called a casual raid group and it was about 4 hours a week of practice before the 6 hour raiding session on the weekend.

The average raid times are: 2-3 hours, 1-3 times a week. So it is very rare that you see groups advertising more than 9 total hours over the week and the ones that are, are probably describing themselves as at least midcore.

So 10 hours a week is really not what they described it as. I mean, you could argue anything other than 16 hours a day all week is casual, but realistically it is streamers, world racers and first week clearers that took time off work that are doing that sort of thing.

If you want a group that raids once a week for 2 hours, it probably exists. If you open up to 2 days a week for 2 hours each, you will probably find plenty of groups advertising that.

I will be honest and say that the fact of it being a schedule does result in preparing for the raiding by way of getting sleep and food beforehand as well as watching guide or PoV videos to improve your understanding of a mechanic. Without doing these things, you could be letting your group down by having not prepared properly and being too tired, too hungry and not having improved your understanding of a challenging mechanic.

But there are probably people who don't do this (I swear I have met them in statics I've substituted in), and a lot of groups that would tolerate it because of describing themselves as casual or not serious.

Just got to gauge how serious the static is by the description. There are plenty that also think they are not good at the game and will just laugh off not being able to do it for months or recruit for a substitute if you announce you're unavailable ahead of time. Of course there will probably be frustration eventually if you don't clear, but the nature of the static being about tolerance leaves it brushed to the side until everyone burns out for the tier.

[Nezerius]

Honestly, troll post and all aside, the biggest thing besides my lower end performance keeping me from trying savage is having to join "SuPeR LeEt RaIdErZ" discord server to voice chat to join a group. That and some of these groups have crazy demands on people's time, my FC put together what it called a casual raid group and it was about 4 hours a week of practice before the 6 hour raiding session on the weekend. that's a pretty big part of a Saturday that I may not want to commit to clearing a raid every week.

This sounds like such a weird raiding schedule, 4 hours of practice before 6 hours of practice? Also, going to assume you're being sarcastic about the "casual" part.
That said, something to keep in mind about committing to clearing a raid every week is that reclears generally take way less time. Or at least a static/structured raid group shouldn't be spending even close to full weekly hours on farm content.

Considering both of your posts, you sounds like someone with some interest in savage raiding, but not enough to go out and find a group that raids on your preferred days/preferred amount of hours. There's plenty of raid groups who don't raid during weekend, since that appears to be what you're having issues with.

[SieyaM]

This sounds like such a weird raiding schedule, 4 hours of practice before 6 hours of practice? Also, going to assume you're being sarcastic about the "casual" part.
That said, something to keep in mind about committing to clearing a raid every week is that reclears generally take way less time. Or at least a static/structured raid group shouldn't be spending even close to full weekly hours on farm content.

Considering both of your posts, you sounds like someone with some interest in savage raiding, but not enough to go out and find a group that raids on your preferred days/preferred amount of hours. There's plenty of raid groups who don't raid during weekend, since that appears to be what you're having issues with.

It's more about the time sink of it, even the casual group that was described in this thread admitted to 8 hours a week of just raiding practice and runs. That is not including the mandatory videos you have to watch and other min maxing you have to commit to outside of these hours. If it was 4 or so hours a week over a few days sure, and no I don't mind watching a strategy video or two to prepare, but I am not going to watch 4 or 5 of them and spend hours on a training dummy nor am I spending anymore actual money on a VPN or other software to make sure my ping is as minimal as possible to quad weave or whatever the top 99% are doing now.