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    could krile become a "spoiler"

    So i could be entirely wrong and might be missing/misremembering some info(so please correct me), but could the MSQ be hinting that krile will become a Oracle(prophet in japan)? The reason i was thinking this is because of the ronka hero tiuna which the shadowbringer MSQ dialogue says this about her

    "Y'shtola: I wonder... By the light... of fallen stars... great power awakens...

    Almet: Tiuna was not only a master of spellcraft. It is said she could see truths long lost and hear the voices of men's hearts."

    And then we have this description of krile from the wiki

    "She discovered she possessed the Echo at the age of twelve. In her, it manifested as a sensitivity to the whispers of the soul, and her adolescence was a dark time hounded by the thoughts of others."

    And unless im misremembering, in endwalker krile had a vision( which no one else saw) of the final days and stars falling while in Sharlayan. Again it might be a stretch and was curious what everyone else thinks about this possible link.

    Edit: dont have a link but i remember yoshi saying Oracle was his personal favorite pick for caster in stormblood but they chose red mage since it made more sense lore wise. So now that it time for a caster again maybe yoshi will try to fit it in.
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    Every Echo user saw a vision of falling stars at some point; the vision is what causes the Echo to awaken. The vision Krile sees in Endwalker is the same vision the Warrior of Light sees, only viewed from a different perspective. The evidence presented is just evidence that Krile and Tiuna both have the Echo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRaisins View Post
    Every Echo user saw a vision of falling stars at some point; the vision is what causes the Echo to awaken. The vision Krile sees in Endwalker is the same vision the Warrior of Light sees, only viewed from a different perspective. The evidence presented is just evidence that Krile and Tiuna both have the Echo.
    I cant seem to remember, when did the WOL have vision of meteors in endwalker?( not arguing just cant remember). I remember that Thavnair and Garlemald had metor showers but everyone saw those two. Also why would krile have another personal vision of meteors if her echo had already been unlock? I was thinking it was more a vision what would happen to Sharlayan if help did not arrive for the WOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tort_1996 View Post
    I was thinking it was more a vision what would happen to Sharlayan if help did not arrive for the WOL.
    That's how I took it, some sort of "What if" vision.

    The latest MSQ seems to hint heavily at green mage but this could be a neat way to tie Tiuna back into things. Her mural appeared in the trailer for that patch and everything and then they did basically nothing with her. I was always disappointed we got Nier instead of something Ronka-themed that could have focused on relics from her time or something along those lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    That's how I took it, some sort of "What if" vision.

    The latest MSQ seems to hint heavily at green mage but this could be a neat way to tie Tiuna back into things. Her mural appeared in the trailer for that patch and everything and then they did basically nothing with her. I was always disappointed we got Nier instead of something Ronka-themed that could have focused on relics from her time or something along those lines.
    Just a theory but im wondering if this expansion going to have a heavy ff5 theme, my reasons so far

    1. Alot mention of krile and galuf.
    2. Alot of underground ruins
    3. Alot of serpent themes with local culture
    4. An secret object above an desert( maybe the flying city of ronka since that was bury under a desert in ff5)
    5. The viper Wol in trailer has moment where he connects the blades together with an ark of electricity which make feel like the weapons could be some type of technology. Maybe an tradition ronka fighting style?
    6. Oracle was an earth crystal job(if i remember right) which was base in ff5 ronka.
    7. The eliminator and the one fanfest map look very high tech which in ff5 ronka tech was very advanced.
    8.ff5 features alot of cross dimensional travel, so i wonder if that would play a part?

    Edit: i also forgot that in ff5 the flying city is powered similar to airships which in ff14 is Ceruleum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tort_1996 View Post
    Just a theory but im wondering if this expansion going to have a heavy ff5 theme, my reasons so far

    1. Alot mention of krile and galuf.
    2. Alot of underground ruins
    3. Alot of serpent themes with local culture
    4. An secret object above an desert( maybe the flying city of ronka since that was bury under a desert in ff5)
    5. The viper Wol in trailer has moment where he connects the blades together with an ark of electricity which make feel like the weapons could be some type of technology. Maybe an tradition ronka fighting style?
    6. Oracle was an earth crystal job(if i remember right) which was base in ff5 ronka.
    7. The eliminator and the one fanfest map look very high tech which in ff5 ronka tech was very advanced.
    8.ff5 features alot of cross dimensional travel, so i wonder if that would play a part?

    Edit: i also forgot that in ff5 the flying city is powered similar to airships which in ff14 is Ceruleum.
    As a FF5 fan, you're tickling my emotions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tort_1996 View Post
    ????......wasn't we in Ultima Thule( or going too it) when krile had that vision? So we didn't have it at the same time. Also we didn't see a meteor shower on the moon, we saw the world decaying and heard a voice after defeating Zodiark.
    Yeah we were in Ultima Thule because Krile saw that in Sharlayan when everyone was standing and looking at the sky, worried about all of us after we left.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tort_1996 View Post
    Just a theory but im wondering if this expansion going to have a heavy ff5 theme, my reasons so far

    1. Alot mention of krile and galuf.
    2. Alot of underground ruins
    3. Alot of serpent themes with local culture
    4. An secret object above an desert( maybe the flying city of ronka since that was bury under a desert in ff5)
    5. The viper Wol in trailer has moment where he connects the blades together with an ark of electricity which make feel like the weapons could be some type of technology. Maybe an tradition ronka fighting style?
    6. Oracle was an earth crystal job(if i remember right) which was base in ff5 ronka.
    7. The eliminator and the one fanfest map look very high tech which in ff5 ronka tech was very advanced.
    8.ff5 features alot of cross dimensional travel, so i wonder if that would play a part?

    Edit: i also forgot that in ff5 the flying city is powered similar to airships which in ff14 is Ceruleum.

    FFV could be awesome (it doesn't get nearly enough love) but so could FFIX and there's a few things that make me think of it. It'll probably be XI, though. Post-Fan Fest interviews said it was going to focus on one FF game I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tort_1996 View Post
    I cant seem to remember, when did the WOL have vision of meteors in endwalker?( not arguing just cant remember). I remember that Thavnair and Garlemald had metor showers but everyone saw those two. Also why would krile have another personal vision of meteors if her echo had already been unlock? I was thinking it was more a vision what would happen to Sharlayan if help did not arrive for the WOL.
    Yes, Krile saw into the future, as did the WoL at the same time, seeing the same events but viewed from their current locations. Krile saw what would happen in Sharlayan, and WoL saw what the planet was going to look like, viewed from the moon. WoL didn't specifically see the meteor shower thing because it wasn't actually a meteor shower and it wasn't visible from the moon.

    Krile, Tiuna, WoL, Arenvald, etc. all saw visions of the original final days when Hydaelyn showed it to them in order to awaken the Echo in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRaisins View Post
    Yes, Krile saw into the future, as did the WoL at the same time, seeing the same events but viewed from their current locations. Krile saw what would happen in Sharlayan, and WoL saw what the planet was going to look like, viewed from the moon. WoL didn't specifically see the meteor shower thing because it wasn't actually a meteor shower and it wasn't visible from the moon.

    Krile, Tiuna, WoL, Arenvald, etc. all saw visions of the original final days when Hydaelyn showed it to them in order to awaken the Echo in them.
    I'd like to note that the WoL has only seen the meteor shower in 1.0 starting cutscene.

    From my experience as someone who played around ShB. The only meteor shower you see in ARR is two or three meteors falling from the sky in the aetherial sea after acquiring the first crystal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRaisins View Post
    Yes, Krile saw into the future, as did the WoL at the same time, seeing the same events but viewed from their current locations. Krile saw what would happen in Sharlayan, and WoL saw what the planet was going to look like, viewed from the moon. WoL didn't specifically see the meteor shower thing because it wasn't actually a meteor shower and it wasn't visible from the moon.

    Krile, Tiuna, WoL, Arenvald, etc. all saw visions of the original final days when Hydaelyn showed it to them in order to awaken the Echo in them.
    ????......wasn't we in Ultima Thule( or going too it) when krile had that vision? So we didn't have it at the same time. Also we didn't see a meteor shower on the moon, we saw the world decaying and heard a voice after defeating Zodiark.
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