MSQ Speculation

[StarRosie]

I don't think they can go back to the Allagans again, it'll literally start becoming a meme at some point.

I mean...the Allagans had space travel before eventually dying off. So they legit could bring in a group from a colony or something started by a group of Allagans who fecked off into space.

If you read some of the descriptions for each turn of I believe Second Coils of Bahamut. It makes mention on I believe turn 3, about your group finding themselves not only 3KM underground, but inside of a Ragnarok-class starship.

So, the option is there but it is also a ridiculously silly idea.

[Gullis]

I would strongly prefer that they develop new lore instead of going back to things like Amon, Allagans, Garlemald. It makes the world feel much smaller to have every single thing be connected back to the same stuff we've been experiencing. The new expansion is a good opportunity to get away from the old lore and introduce new things. Easter eggs & hints, sure. But wouldn't you rather see something completely new?

Very much this

[Nebelheim]

I got tired of the allagans ascians/ancients and garlemald empire stuff. I wouldn't want to see more of them.

[Mayhemmer]

As much as I wish it wasn't the case, at the end of the day, it's always gonna be...



....... ok but what if, though.. /s

[Ghost_of_Ebina]

It's basically a meme in the Japanese forums -- "Blame the Allagans"

[Argonloris]

I wouldn't argue that tropes can be overused and Allagans may be one of those. At the same time we still need to pull threads left at Endwalker. This would largely be some of those threads. "Amon" had to be doing something while Emet and Elidibus were still around. We need some reason beyond prep for a later expansion to have been dealing with the 13th and this gives us some connection to that. Saying that a group was using energy from the void and we shut it down, so now they are forced to use cerullium would work. Can also assume that perhaps the stuff is like mako from ff7. Since we assume that some of the ironworks teck in the twinning was powered that way. So perhaps the soul crystal for viper is a solid form of cerullium and they make soul batteries from it. The Eliminator is a test bed for them. With smaller ones or clones becoming the new antagonist army.

I just can't see starting an expansion story from only a letter we see for less than a patch as a viable thing to do. Cutting off all the other threads just wouldn't make sense.

[Remish]

I got tired of the allagans ascians/ancients and garlemald empire stuff. I wouldn't want to see more of them.

I'm sick of it too but I think it would be kind of awkward to have absolutely zero presence of those things anywhere in the New World given how much of an impact they are everywhere else. The Ascians alone at least. I just find it hard to believe that for thousands of years they just never touched the New World in any way shape or form. That all this time they stayed in the Eorzea 'Holy Land' area. As sick of the Ascians as I am, it just doesn't sit well with me to assume they made zero impact on the New World in any capacity. Even with all the Calamities.

[Iscah]

I'm sick of it too but I think it would be kind of awkward to have absolutely zero presence of those things anywhere in the New World given how much of an impact they are everywhere else. The Ascians alone at least.

I don't think it's necessary to find either.

The Allagans, IIRC, conquered their own landmass first, then attacked Meracydia. Maybe Tural was next on the "to conquer" list but they never got there before their society collapsed.

And Ascians... they have no markers of their own for us to recognise their past presence there. Maybe they stirred up some civilisations, or maybe they never bothered and just focused on Eorzea and Garlemald as their base of operations.

[Lunaxia]

I just can't see starting an expansion story from only a letter we see for less than a patch as a viable thing to do. Cutting off all the other threads just wouldn't make sense.

The brutal truth is, as far as the devs are concerned, Endwalker is done, and I mean done. They've made a very deliberate point of hastily wrapping up just about every lingering thread left from the previous storyline and tossed the entire arc in a box they're clearly determined to leave on a shelf for now. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but that's what they've been doing. Ordinarily, we would have something like you suggested running alongside the Void story, building off past plot points and leading us into the next expansion, but they've decided on a different direction this time around and seem intent on emphasising DT as the start of a new chapter. Running back to Amon and the Allagans would go directly against that.

I'm sick of it too.

I think we're meant to assume the Ascians have been pretty much everywhere at some point, whispering in ears behind the scenes and stirring up strife to help set up the events that triggered the various Calamities that transpired over the ages. I don't know if they need to make a point of highlighting their involvement with every civilisation on the planet, and it would start to get kind of obnoxious if they did.

[Enkidoh]

I mean...the Allagans had space travel before eventually dying off. So they legit could bring in a group from a colony or something started by a group of Allagans who fecked off into space.

If you read some of the descriptions for each turn of I believe Second Coils of Bahamut. It makes mention on I believe turn 3, about your group finding themselves not only 3KM underground, but inside of a Ragnarok-class starship.

So, the option is there but it is also a ridiculously silly idea.

There is no indication the Allag ever actually used their spacecraft for anything other than maintaining Dalamud in orbit (the Ragnarok-class ships were more properly 'internment hulks', basically flying transport and containment facilities for moving the dragons imprisoned within Dalamud to sustain Bahamut as part of the sun/Dalamud/Crystal Tower power system; and the Heimdall class (such as the one that ended up crashing on the moon) were basically just for monitoring Dalamud and ensuring Bahamut didn't break free.

To my knowledge there is no mention at all of the Allag "taking the Empire to the stars" or anything, their spacecraft were essentially just glorified airships (and even seemed to be used as such - it's what Helix's rotating dock in Azys Lla is for specifically - a dock for Ragnarok class vessels.).

So based on that alone I doubt there is some 'long lost colony world' of the Allag out there in the Sea of Stars... but, who knows.