SGE/RPR feedback thread crosspost

[Renathras]

What clunk was there in SB on healers?

On SCHOLAR specifically?

Even more ghosting, less responsive Faerie, worse AI on Eos (somehow even worse AI on Selene, and to this day I'm not sure WHY), Dissipation meant you had to resummon your Faerie once it finished, the various iterations of Aetherflow, the various iterations of Miasma 2, some issues with clipping to use oGCDs (particularly Deploy, though you could also deploy Succor off of Selene, which was cool...but also clearly not intended and yet more clunk). Oh, and the macros for pet abilities. Some people loved them, but everyone said they were clunky at the time and many people wanted something else. That's the entire reason Aetherpact was introduced in the first place, specifically to address that issue.

One of the consistent points of praise for SCH in both ShB AND EW was that it became progressively less clunky with each expansion. Even people badmouthing SCH in ShB largely did say they liked the pet AI and ghosting improvements, as they were worse in SB.

It's somewhat odd to me you're asking this since it's long been pretty standard accepted and stated by everyone I've ever read that SB's SCH was more clunky. You're...the first person I've ever seen say the opposite. Don't get me wrong, people praise SB SCH all the time. That isn't at all uncommon. But until this discussion, I thought everyone agreed it was more clunky. Interesting you're holding the contra position now. Guess it is in vogue, though, to say everything possible must be worse with no exceptions. But no, the common perception at the time was that SB was more clunky, and with EW's launch, SCH's pet AI improvements and general usability were praised, even by people that still felt the Job was weaker than its SB (skills) incarnation.

And I mained SCH, not WHM, in SB.

If you think it was less clunky in SB than now, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise, but there was absolutely clunk and this was openly discussed going into 5.0 at the time, so it's kinda weird you missed that...