Viper would of been better if it had a different name

[BRVV]

It's a the nickname of one of Zidanes twinblades found in the help text

Wow that seems really far fetched.

[jameseoakes]

Wow that seems really far fetched.

If it is meant as a 9 reference they picked a really obscure way to to it
(Help text for Rune Tooth if anyone wants to know, also Zidane's weapon with poison added effect)

[Mcg55ss]

I think it’s dumb, but it could make sense when we see their abilities. It could be all snake and poison puns/references. Who knows? But I'm also not an authority on what names things should be called. I've named a hamster Steve.

This is what I expect of poison dot style, or something that has like a gcd or cd reduction for lightning fast attacks kind of like a viper then I think the name will fit fine

[sindriiisgaming]

I am NOT a Viper hater. I just think the devs didn't do a very good job of conveying what it is. A second western style sword DPS job has been a niche that has been unfulfilled for a long time.

Samurai, and Ninja are eastern.

If you want a classic RPG sword user that isn't a Tank, you have to use Red Mage, which is a MAGE even though it is a cool sword fighter.

Imo I think they should of called it a Swordsmaster, or Blademaster because it strongly resembles the Swordsmasters in other RPGs such as the Fire Emblem series, with the unique sword combo stance making it a more unique concept to FFXIV.

Viper is such an odd name for a job, and though I don't hate it, I do hope I learn to love the name of the job overtime. Does it actually have a meaning to the snake motif? If that ends up being the case, that actually would be quite cool. I do love how sometimes Yoshi P and the team are very good at delivering surprise concepts that we don't fully understand, but grow to love later. Such as Shadowbringers. No one expected that, but now its the fan favorite expansion.

Anyway these were just some of my thoughts. >:3

if the name of the job carries wheter its good or bad then id honestly say thats a terrible way to rate the job. the name should be the thing that matters the least

Names matter. If you don't think they matter, then you aren't creative enough.

lame response titanmen

[fulminating]

I don't like it because viper just looks weird when listed with the other jobs. I tried articulating why earlier, but it's hard to determine exactly what makes it seem off beyond it not being an instantly identifiable "people job". Bounty/Treasure/Just Hunter would probably have supplied the morally dubious tone while sounding more correct. Don't know if it has ranged options yet or turns into a giant snake, but if not then scout/assassin or something in the anglosphere zeitgeist associated with dexterity and big knives - reiver's probably not it, but there's surely at least a few more before resorting to animals. Guerrilla for instance.

It's nice to have a argument about something other than how it will end up playing into raid buffs. Maybe it's just a 2d chess move to act as a lightningrod for criticism.

[ForsakenRoe]

but there's surely at least a few more before resorting to animals. Guerrilla for instance.

Could you do me a favour and reread what you wrote here? Out loud a couple of times too

[fulminating]

Could you do me a favour and reread what you wrote here? Out loud a couple of times too

Oh good, I was worried it wouldn't work in text.

[Darkobra]

Oh good, I was worried it wouldn't work in text.

Absolutely did.

[Tsiron]

Maybe not FFIX Zidane, but I've seen people point out similarities to his crossover appearances (e.g. Dissidia)

[Naraku_Diabolos]

Based on the lore for what was given for Viper, it seems that it’s a tribal hunter, but in a sense it is more akin to being a cold-blooded killer. This makes it seem like an assassin-type job, since it shares Scouting gear with Ninja.

In real life, Ninja were actually spies and assassins that were hired by wealthy families to infiltrate places. During the day, the would-be Ninja were farmers. Most of a Ninja’s toolkit in real life were practical tools, including some sets used by farmers like the ball and chain attached to a sickle (like Kohaku from InuYasha). At night is when the “farmers” would go about their nighttime jobs as a Ninja to spy and/or assassinate their targets (usually high profile people).

I believe that Viper will follow a similar path. The NPC will possibly be someone from Tural, most likely a Mamool Ja as the name Viper can also be based on them being part reptilian beastmen.