[Graphic Update Feedback] Miqo'te Female Eyes and Face 3 Feedback

[EllieSea]

I'm really trying to protect my excitement for these soon to come graphic updates, because of how positively it will impact the games environment. Giving us a truly more immersive and dynamically textured world. From grass that looks like cut paper which has been overlapped to soon to be full and flourishing. However, I like many others have a deep concern regarding what these graphic improvements will mean for the characters we've grown so attached to all these years. A concern that almost treads dysmorphia. I've been keeping posted on these updates and I feel quite disheartened.



Looking at the Miqo mock-up images they seem like two different characters. The eyes most of all. They are significantly bigger and much more animal-like in a way that changes the rest of the face's composition entirely. While when I had first entered character creation having this new eye size and shape as an option may have been appealing. Now it just feels like the eyes lose the seriousness and intensity I love for a more playful and dough-eyed appearance. The second issue I take with the proposed new eyes is the lack of vibrance. The old coloring almost glows while the new is so dim and cloudy- The hue changes from bright yellow-gold to honey. I worry the bold greens on my WoL will be so much darker.

The Lips also receive a drastic change. The top lip no longer has the same pronounced cupids bow that I felt gave the race a feline like smile, while the new bottom lip looks less defined like it blurs out into the surrounding skin. I can appreciate that the realistic texture and sheen we gain looks gorgeous but not at the expense of the supple smile we currently enjoy. The signature facial tattoos also seem to go from a warm reddish brown to much cooler brown.

I'm not sure whether my eyes deceive me and its just the other changes in facial features or the new shadows, But the new face looks so much rounder and fuller at the cheeks. If I didn't know better I would think these were two different face/jaw shapes.
Likewise, The hair looks very different, about two shades darker. I love the new texture and details, However I feel that we sacrifice a brighter color with more highlights and lowlights to achieve it. I truly hope that Square takes feedback like this to heart when considering blanket changes to all the races. I would never dislike the idea of more options as it would make our characters even more unique which I always encourage. But I would hope that our original looks would be persevered in the process and not overwritten.

[Yencat]

I really don't intend to sound rude because clearly this is very important to some people, but it's a little bit dramatic to suggest these two actually look like completely different characters.

Maybe they should just call the whole thing off so they can really make sure nothing changes too much.

[Limecat]

I'm more put out that they're planning on wasting 90GB of my hard drive to up some textures I'll never really notice outside of a few gee-whiz moments after the initial update.

[Larirawiel]

Looking at the Miqo mock-up images they seem like two different characters. The eyes most of all. They are significantly bigger and much more animal-like in a way that changes the rest of the face's composition entirely.

With this glam:


you will hardly see a difference how big or animal-like the eyes are.



Cheers

[SchwarzwaelderTorte]

I agree that it is more subtle than other changes that I pointed out in my thread on Eyes and Au ra Limbal Rings, especially if you don't play as a M'iqote so you are not as familiar with their faces as someone who does, but I think it would also help people who are unconvinced by the OP to consider how this would affect NPCs like Y'shtola, since the model uses the same face.

I can imagine that her eyes will receive a special treatment (at least post ARR), but I think her default expression would soften quite a lot with the changes around the mouth and the cheeks, and that doesn't really suit her character.

And even for a normal M'iqote, the more "realistic" irises kind of take away from the feline image to me, ironically enough. Because they're more overshadowed and the color slightly tuned down, the gaze looks less fierce and wild than it does at the moment, even with the same pupil.

[HollowedDoll]

I agree that it is more subtle than other changes that I pointed out in my thread on Eyes and Au ra Limbal Rings, especially if you don't play as a M'iqote so you are not as familiar with their faces as someone who does, but I think it would also help people who are unconvinced by the OP to consider how this would affect NPCs like Y'shtola, since the model uses the same face.

I can imagine that her eyes will receive a special treatment (at least post ARR), but I think her default expression would soften quite a lot with the changes around the mouth and the cheeks, and that doesn't really suit her character.

And even for a normal M'iqote, the more "realistic" irises kind of take away from the feline image to me, ironically enough. Because they're more overshadowed and the color slightly tuned down, the gaze looks less fierce and wild than it does at the moment, even with the same pupil.

None of the scions barring Estinien share faces with players, the tattoos are pretty much part of their faces, so they could give these characters special attention even during 2.0 content.

[Ath192]

I much prefer the after picture and am so glad they are changing it! thanks.

[Yencat]

It's not that I really can't see any change between these two pictures, I assume we all can, but definitely not to the point where I can't still see it's the same character.

- The eyes are the most obvious difference, personally I think they look better in the after but that's entirely subjective.
- New maps makes the light hit the face differently casting a different shadow across the entire jaw making the chin look slightly shorter even though it's not, so the entire face looks rounder from this particular angle.
- I see no drastic change in the lips, cleaner lines and slightly more glossy perhaps.
- The hair colour looking slightly different is already a "problem" between the older and more recently released hairstyles. If anything this should make colour show more uniformly across all of them rather than suddenly turning drastically brighter or darker depending on when the hairstyle was released.

Obviously me saying that maybe they should just call the whole thing off is tongue in cheek, but maybe we're taking the "we don't want to change your character" statement a bit too literally in this case. There will obviously be some changes, if they truly wanted no changes there would be no point to any of this and they would just leave them alone completely.

In a perfect world every piece of feedback or complaint would turn into another option and we'd get sliders for this and toggles for that, but the reality of this game is that if they get enough feedback about something it often gets changed completely. In some cases that's fine and in some it's kind of a bummer so I'm just providing some counter criticism. For example, there are people that enjoyed the glassier look they gave the Au Ra horns but as far as we know that's completely scrapped now.

[Hyperia]

While I agree that it looks better from my perspective, I can totally understand why others would not like it. I hope the Devs offer a Fantasia for everybody after the update. While it’s a financial hit, it is the right thing to do. Any changes, even subtle, may make a player dislike their look enough to quit.

[Yencat]

While I agree that it looks better from my perspective, I can totally understand why others would not like it. I hope the Devs offer a Fantasia for everybody after the update. While it’s a financial hit, it is the right thing to do. Any changes, even subtle, may make a player dislike their look enough to quit.

Absolutely agree, unless they finally intend to drastically increase what Jandelaine can do then players should at least have the option to make larger changes to their character if they're really not happy with how they look after the update.