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    (just ressubed) Did they really delete a thread about Live Letter for being critical?

    Yesterday I decided to re-sub because of the live letter.

    I saw a quite critical thread about the live letter on this forum yesterday.
    If you look back through my recent posts you'll see that I have been outright vitriolic at times about the state of the game/community-attitude in some of them, never a cool look but when you feel someone must, you find a spine and 'do' literally the barest Fng minimum which is to talk about it.
    So I said to myself "If your going to be 'that' vocal about being negative, then you can no longer just stay quiet when you see something positive"
    So I resolved that I would make sure to go back on and post my take on the positive to be found in the Live letter, for CB3 and the community, and maybe even start a whole new thread to give prominence to that positivity where it does exist. (Even though I still have significant reservations.)

    But instead, I can't see the post anywhere, and there is another thread talking about censorship. Do I find they have now started to just delete expression when it does not align with doctrine?
    (Might as well just use reddit at that point. Which I don't. Tabloid, tell other people why they think wrong, garbage.)

    (incidentally, I had been planning on just enjoying the game this morning. I only logged in to see if my forum access was open. I was not expecting to see that thread gone, if it is. I now I find myself preferring to be here writing this crap, instead of logging in, because my interest in the game hasn't fundamentally changed, and its still hanging by a thread.)
    • (Please, if you know the post I mean, and I've just missed it under another forum, please link it)
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    Ya, it's been completely removed. I wrote a couple of posts in that thread, and doesn't even show up when I look at my post history.

    Rather weird, most of the time they lock the threads, but guess we're not allowed to talk in such a thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    Do I find they have now started to just delete expression when it does not align with doctrine?
    Yes, they have. A new low for the forums lmfao.

    This is what happens in other games that were in decline and at risk of getting shut down. The first thing they do is start censoring criticism. They're panicking.
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    It is a recent trend. Was not the only critical thread that got silently nuked.
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    Its weird, while that particular OP came across as very Titanmen-y trolling due to choice of words and used hyperbole, the thread itself did have some very constructive and interesting discussion, and definitely was not full of doom&gloom. Sadly, without an official statement, we can only theorize what caused this.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisshu View Post
    Ya, it's been completely removed. I wrote a couple of posts in that thread, and doesn't even show up when I look at my post history.

    Rather weird, most of the time they lock the threads, but guess we're not allowed to talk in such a thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Losado View Post
    Yes, they have. A new low for the forums lmfao...
    Well, that's truly sad.

    Well I guess that means we are just going to have to work harder to get the negative side of the message through. (That ought to please the high end gamers at least, "Make the effort! Just get gud!")
    If/when I come back to post about the live letter I'll be spending less time on the positive and more time underlining my reservations, to do my bit to ensure the general pool of opinion is accurately represented.
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    They’ve also deleted more than one thread about the stalking plugin and how NA has discussed about it’s squarely square’s fault for their blacklist implementation and they seem to harshly moderate it on the JP forums given there has been more than one JP person coming over here to ask in broken English what is going on with that plugin
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    They didn't delete it for being critical, nearly everything on this forum is critical. They almost certainly deleted because it was made by a notorious forum troll and was clearly a troll post. If someone were to recreate the thread with an actual good faith original post I'm sure it would be fine.
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    Yes they have.

    There has also been a thread regarding the 'exploitation' of the Account ID that was deleted a few weeks back.

    It's not really the best look ever, when threads are silenced like that. Especially when an overwhelming majority of the responses were actually reasonable.

    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    They didn't delete it for being critical, nearly everything on this forum is critical. They almost certainly deleted because it was made by a notorious forum troll and was clearly a troll post. If someone were to recreate the thread with an actual good faith original post I'm sure it would be fine.
    Honestly, doesn't matter if it was made by a 'notorious forum troll' - It was still a perfectly reasonable thread, IMO.
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    I don't think it was deleted for being critical really
    It talked about the stalking tool which is why the other thread specifically about it got deleted
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