I really don’t know anymore….

[SweetPete]

This last extreme fight is very easy but I don’t know what it is but the healers just aren’t jelling right now. At least my co-healers. I’ll say around 80% of them from all across the NA data center have been absolutely terrible in this fight.

I just don’t understand it. I was on this kick with all the other veteran good healers about healers being boring and need more to do. Maybe more damage spells or support spells or just make things hit harder so we heal more.

This boss hits pretty noticeably and as a scholar main I run through my resources because my co-healer just doesn’t really help out.

I can’t tell you how many white mages I’ve had who doesn’t use medica 2, or even cure 3. Now I know that GCD healing is looked down upon. So other vet healers don’t come for me please. However there comes a time when you just gotta use it to help the team. Using a GCD to save the group instead of possibly wiping or losing some players because afflatus rapture or lily bell just wasn’t enough. Or they are just flat out glare mages who never uses gcd heals and if we lose people then oh well.

It’s shameful. How can you call yourself a healer? It’s our first job after all. I love broiling it up too like any other and yeah I’ll roll my eyes every once in awhile when I need to succor but I do it because losing people sucks and wiping sucks. If I can prevent that why not? But I’m sorry if we’re getting slammed by the laser and you see us taking crazy damage because maybe the tanks are out of position or maybe a melee has gotten to close and you continue to glare etc then no you are not a good healer. I don’t care what your gear is. You absolutely suck.

And I don’t wanna hear “well if they are out of position that’s not my problem, let them die” yeah sorry but it is your problem. Someone gets a vulnerability stack yeah it is your problem. You’re a healer. Do your job. I’m sick of this. I’m tired of picking up your slack. We are suppose to work together as a unit. But I digress.

Honestly I was all for the devs kinda giving healers back more dps spells but to be honest I’m wondering where my brain went because if they play like this now then just imagine what 2-3 more dps skills will get us.

After 41 runs I saw the mount drop for the first time and won it. I am so over this fight and the terrible co-healers I’ve had. Good riddance.

See you all in Dawntrail. The good healers. Not the narcissistic, self-absorbed, mean, horrible, anti-gcd and terrible healers.

[Carin-Eri]

Unlucky

I've only tried said trial four times on Ex thus far and haven't been in a team that completed it, but the healers in the teams I did join were great, particularly considering how clumsy I can be!

[Aravell]

I really don't see why healer kits have to be designed around bad players? We don't see tanks gets their offensive kit ripped to shreds because some of them are bad at pressing defensives. I saw a WAR die to the buster today because he didn't use CDs, should we remove IR and replace it with more defensive CDs?

It's unfortunate when you meet people who refuse to press GCDs even when required, but they're bad players and I'm sick of people covering for players like that because "Well, the community says you shouldn't use GCD heals....". Healers not using a GCD heal when required is bad play, same as tanks not using CDs for tankbusters and DPS not using AoE in big pulls.

[Sebazy]

I’m firmly of the opinion that they are coming out of fights like the recent 24 mangs and just aren’t prepared for any gulf in healing requirements.

Alliance raids and expert being entirely brain dead is rotting the standard of play away.

[SweetPete]

I really don't see why healer kits have to be designed around bad players? We don't see tanks gets their offensive kit ripped to shreds because some of them are bad at pressing defensives. I saw a WAR die to the buster today because he didn't use CDs, should we remove IR and replace it with more defensive CDs?

It's unfortunate when you meet people who refuse to press GCDs even when required, but they're bad players and I'm sick of people covering for players like that because "Well, the community says you shouldn't use GCD heals....". Healers not using a GCD heal when required is bad play, same as tanks not using CDs for tankbusters and DPS not using AoE in big pulls.

My name is Anna and I agree with this message.

[SweetPete]

Unlucky

I've only tried said trial four times on Ex thus far and haven't been in a team that completed it, but the healers in the teams I did join were great, particularly considering how clumsy I can be!

Very unlucky indeed. It just seems most healers done fell off big time. Now I’ve had some great healers in that fight but they were far in between for sure.

[SweetPete]

I’m firmly of the opinion that they are coming out of fights like the recent 24 mangs and just aren’t prepared for any gulf in healing requirements.

Alliance raids and expert being entirely brain dead is rotting the standard of play away.

Say it again.

[GrimGale]

I keep having the opposite problem in EU datacenters. I run into Medica II spammers or players that just unload all their CDs at the first sign of damage.

[Aravell]

I will say though, this current extreme does cluster more damage instances together than normal, so you won't always have, say, Sacred Soil up for everything. If someone doesn't plan properly, there will be dead zones where they have nothing, and if they refuse to dip into GCD healing, then the party's going to have a bad time.

[ForsakenRoe]

I wish that people could like, as a collective, agree to just have Log run parties be the place to do wacky no-healing runs and pad their parses, instead of trying to do it in PF farm parties and stuff, chadding their cohealer and what-not. I'd probably (maybe) be able to get oranges in each fight if I smashed my head against each of them in a log party, but I don't, I do the safety Medica2 or E.Prog when I think it's needed for the sake of a clear, because the objective in a weekly reclear party is to reclear the fight. I also don't do log runs because while I care about my performance, I don't believe in artificially inflating the results by doing the fight over and over. Logs automatically being attributed to you, and the idea that logrun parties can just... not upload the bad runs, mean that the whole parse system of seeing 'who is the better player' is flawed from the start. If I only upload the one race against Usain Bolt out of many, where he trips over his own shoelaces at the start and so I win, that doesn't mean I'm better than Usain Bolt, for example

This would be solved if SE had an official logging system in the game. Like Duty Recorder, having an option to select (which everyone has to anonymously accept) before combat which says 'this run will be recorded as a 'competitive run', then we could contain the behaviour to the PFs that specifically state that as the intended goal. Instead, since it's a third party, pseudo-fightclub activity, you never know who is logging, in any content, and so if you care about your parses/median, you have to behave as if you're being logged at all times, which means doing stupid stuff like the OP sees. Because a wiped run is not considered by the site. So it results in 'all or nothing' behaviour, where the person who cares about their logs either gets a good log (at the cost of chadding their coheal, most likely), or they take the whole ship down with them to preserve the 'sanctity' of their page (lol). Doing anything negative towards someone based on parses or lack thereof would still be against TOS, and there can be a message on the 'confirmation window' for converting a run to a logged run saying:

'WARNING IF YOU DISPARAGE/CRITICIZE ANYONE BASED ON COMPETITIVE RAIDING IN ANY WAY, THIS WILL RESULT IN YOUR ACCOUNT BEING BANNED FOR 7 DAYS, EVEN AS THE FIRST OFFENCE. DON'T EVEN TRY IT, BUD'

Also, if it were an actual ingame SE-sanctioned mode, then EVERY run would be uploaded, even scuffed clears where they don't get quite as good a run. Oh, didn't get an orange? Can't exclude it, it's still going on your page