New Job: Viper

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Dual/twinblades and you are done, huh? That seems quite the opposite of inspired, cohesive, synergistic and good design. That seems like they could have slapped dual blades on any job regardless of other design factors (which in fact they somewhat did here), and you still would have bought into it. That's incredibly undiscerning, and while good for you for being easily satisfied I guess, some of us just aren't into shovelware Korean MMO design. Maybe the game is changing and this is the target market now, but I may not be part of it if this is the new standard for class design.

With this line of, and im being generous, logic.
Basically all and any Job, or class, and at this point in any game could be dismissed as "meh", no one here is inventing any wheel nor discorvering electricity my friend... You are quite transparent to your own biases it seems. Kinda confusing your personal taste for actual objectivity, careful with that.


And calling it a "korean shovelware" actually reminded me of Lineage 2, Blade Dancer is probably one of the best classes i have ever had the pleasure of playing in any MMORPG.
"New standard for class design" try harder.

[WeebAlert]

Reading this thread is kind of insane to me the way that people seem to think they have the entire job rotation figured out from a short video that barely shows every skill. We won’t be able to know how to the job plays until we see the job actions trailer. Anyone who thinks they “know” the job plays like reaper based on this trailer is being completely disingenuous.

[Mcg55ss]

Awful name

We can't judge the name cuz we don't know enough about the class. If it's a melee poison or dot, or something that reduces the cds for a faster onslaught specialist then viper is a very suitable name and fits the class perfectly. All we know is they showed a little bit but really we have no real information about the class other than the weapons. So I can't say the name suits it or not....yet.

[Chasingstars]

Reading this thread is kind of insane to me the way that people seem to think they have the entire job rotation figured out from a short video that barely shows every skill. We won’t be able to know how to the job plays until we see the job actions trailer. Anyone who thinks they “know” the job plays like reaper based on this trailer is being completely disingenuous.

Especially since this is par for the course with job reveal trailers. They reveal like its battle stance emote, then reveal a fragment of the kit. Usually its just the resource builder, with a few odds and ends here and there. To me it just looked like what happens if you put skillspeed on a rogue/ninja for their basic 1-2-3, then with some Blood of the Dragon looking buff activated.

[SieyaM]

But it is inspired, cohesive, synergistic and really good.
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There is no way any of us could possibly know this, we have literally seen a half minute trailer for the job that gave no real information.

[SieyaM]

Reading this thread is kind of insane to me the way that people seem to think they have the entire job rotation figured out from a short video that barely shows every skill. We won’t be able to know how to the job plays until we see the job actions trailer. Anyone who thinks they “know” the job plays like reaper based on this trailer is being completely disingenuous.

Well since the 2 minute burst window seems to be staying we can make some pretty accurate guesses so far. It's blue aura burst will probably be on a 2 minute cooldown, it will probably have an ability similar to manafication that will allow it to burst in the opener since a lot of jobs have that now too. It's gauge spenders will be designed to be used in that burst window since they will be the higher potency skills. It will also most likely have a 1-2-3 or 1-2-3-4 standard combo to build gauge with a few oGCDs sprinkled in on different timers, though they will still have to line up to the 2 minute burst window.

[BaconBits]

Naah bruh the blue aura is definitely going to be like reaper's enshroud where you build up meter for your burst then spam a single gcd (or two if you're lucky) for 4 hits before ending it with a big finisher ala Reaper's Death Ball. The one thing that definitely would be on a two minute timer would be it's super flashy attack that gives you enough gauge to activate the blue aura in your opener.

The rest of it is pretty spot on though lmao.

[NekoMataMata]

I've been waiting for this for so long. I don't know if it will have any stealth or assassin-like features, but I hope so. I really want a more eastern assassin job in comparison to ninja.

[Iscah]

Knew I'd seen that stance before.

Funny that they talk about having a fast playstyle with it, yet the trailer makes it seem slow (I know they normally do this, but could have had a faster pace to point out the speed).

The stance makes it seem a bit gawky, even if they're doing it as a legacy reference thing. Is there any chance it's a placeholder, or are they just having to scrape a bit to create something different to how ninja holds their daggers?

[OzumaKuma]

Was hoping for pirate with a pistol, but I'll take it. A bit of a shame the swords are sheathed on the back and not on the hip like in the trailer, but that's personal taste.

In the demo, you notice he uses an ability that combines the swords in an attack, and then stays in that stance with them combined, instead of just going back to two swords. I'm interested in seeing how that plays into that blue aura speed buff.

They are probably gonna save that for their Lightning job. But up next will be the Blitz all job.