Dawntrail Healers need a rework

[Faidid]

In addition to normal healing kit adjustments, I want 4.0 style class dps option to add some freaking diversity and identity back into healing. For the love of the game keep Yoshi P away from healers!!
From FF16 to healing in FF14, I'm sick to tear of his button-spam mentality. It's not fun.

[Palladiamors]

Be careful what you wish for...

[Supersnow845]

Be careful what you wish for...

All I see are positives here, I’m totally happy to wish for that

[SweetPete]

And then the forums will be filled with “Yoshi P, please take dps skills away, these healers not healing. I keep dying. Please go back to 1 button dps spam healers again” lol.

[Supersnow845]

And then the forums will be filled with “Yoshi P, please take dps skills away, these healers not healing. I keep dying. Please go back to 1 button dps spam healers again” lol.

Precisely zero people saw the 5.0 healers from the 4.0 healers and thought the changes were good

[SweetPete]

We have a decent amount of okay healers and very rare good/amazing healers. Sorry I want healers to be better too but if most can’t even handle healing with the large amount of healing skills we have now I hate to see how it will be if they cut skills and gave an equal amount of healing and dps skills again.

Nah I’m good. Keep things the way they are. Bad enough trying to get healers to heal with just one dps skill spam. I can’t imagine the disaster it would be if they gave us more dps skills again.

Trimming dps skills down was probably the best thing the devs did for healers. I’ll get hate for this post but idc. I been around since 1.0 so I know everything healers went through up until now. I main healer too. So yeah.

[ty_taurus]

We have a decent amount of okay healers and very rare good/amazing healers. Sorry I want healers to be better too but if most can’t even handle healing with the large amount of healing skills we have now I hate to see how it will be if they cut skills and gave an equal amount of healing and dps skills again.

Nah I’m good. Keep things the way they are. Bad enough trying to get healers to heal with just one dps skill spam. I can’t imagine the disaster it would be if they gave us more dps skills again.

Trimming dps skills down was probably the best thing the devs did for healers. I’ll get hate for this post but idc. I been around since 1.0 so I know everything healers went through up until now. I main healer too. So yeah.

Here's my stance: Let people suck.

My ability to enjoy a game shouldn't be reliant on another person's ability to play the game at a passable level. Why is that fair to me? So what? Some people suck. Some clears will take longer than others. Cry me an fing river.

[Supersnow845]

We have a decent amount of okay healers and very rare good/amazing healers. Sorry I want healers to be better too but if most can’t even handle healing with the large amount of healing skills we have now I hate to see how it will be if they cut skills and gave an equal amount of healing and dps skills again.

Nah I’m good. Keep things the way they are. Bad enough trying to get healers to heal with just one dps skill spam. I can’t imagine the disaster it would be if they gave us more dps skills again.

Trimming dps skills down was probably the best thing the devs did for healers. I’ll get hate for this post but idc. I been around since 1.0 so I know everything healers went through up until now. I main healer too. So yeah.

What would he the problem with leaving the GCD heals the same and diversifying the damage kit

The only really problem with healing back then is cleric stance actually impacted almost all healing

If you left the OP GCD kit alone then bad healers can be bad DPS dealers while still keeping the party alive, glare mages causing party deaths are exceptionally rare compared to sylphies and functional sylphies

Plus there is the added effect of the fact that the changes just weren’t popular with anyone as per the job satisfaction surveys released since 5.0

[SweetPete]

What would he the problem with leaving the GCD heals the same and diversifying the damage kit

The only really problem with healing back then is cleric stance actually impacted almost all healing

If you left the OP GCD kit alone then bad healers can be bad DPS dealers while still keeping the party alive, glare mages causing party deaths are exceptionally rare compared to sylphies and functional sylphies

Plus there is the added effect of the fact that the changes just weren’t popular with anyone as per the job satisfaction surveys released since 5.0

And yet nothing changed. Apparently they like where healers are now and aren’t gonna change them. Maybe if everyone stop playing healers then maybe just maybe. However, even thought most of us healer mains complain there is still a huge selection of healer mains. So we just gotta get use to what it is.

[NobleWinter]

Having less healing skills would actually make healing easier. In an emergency it's easier to choose the right tool when you only have 3 or 4 compared to having 9 or 10. On Scholar I can aoe heal with Succor, Indomitability, Fey Blessing, Whispering Dawn, Sacred Soil, Fey Covenant and even Adloquium if I pair it with Deployment Tactics. That's a lot of options that get further augmented by Fey Illumination, Dissipation, and Protraction in the case of Adloquium Deployment. If we want Healers to be better I think simplifying the healing portion of the kit and adding to DPS complexity is the perfect way to go about that. If a Healer can't choose the right time to heal or DPS it won't matter how many buttons on either side of the equation you give them. They are simply lost in the encounter but it would most assuredly be easier if the healing options were simple and straightforward to allow even the most novice healer to succeed at the part of the job that matters most. Right now healer actions are very poorly matched to the pace of the game and it has got to change.