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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I do firmly believe if we don't do some blanket nerf to self sustain we could very well see groups that start to solo heal content out of the gate.
    Its already the optimal way to run dungeons, and while its still currently a meme, the fact that current content like P12S or TOP have been cleared with no healers is a sign of things to come if nothing is done.
    And it should be noted the core of those groups were running 2 WARs and PLDs.

    If you go look at statistics for the jobs, the sheer gap in healing output between WAR and PLD and DRK/GNB its almost comical. Its clear early on the idea was for DRK/GNB to be the damage tanks and WAR/PLD to be the sustain tanks.
    Well 5 patches in those sustain tanks are doing GNB levels of damage yet still bring that much more party utility. Not saying those damage buffs weren't warranted, but using P8S as an example when it was a problem for a week and the devs themselves admitted they failed to test it thoroughly doesn't make it an issue with their output, it makes it an issue with developer attentiveness.

    And just to put numbers to this, in Anabaseios WAR has a Heal per second of around 4,500, PLD's is about 3,900.
    DRK and GNBs both hover around 3,160. That means WAR doing slightly less than 1.5x of GNB or DRK.

    Its kinda sad that this hasn't even been viewed as an issue by the devs imo.
    Like WAR leading is to be expected due to its gimmick, but then TBN is DRK's gimmick and that logs as healing as well, and here we are.

    I understand entirely that this isn't as big of an issue as damage outputs, and things like raw mitigation are also going to play into this not mattering as much, but then WAR really isn't a slouch on raw mitigation despite claims otherwise, and we're also on 6.5, nearly 6.51 so I really don't think the devs even care about things like this.
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    Last edited by Oizen; 10-23-2023 at 06:11 PM.