Results 1 to 10 of 254

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Reinha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    4,069
    Character
    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    most of the abuse happens on the NA/EU worlds where housing is difficult to get in the first place.
    Housing is not difficult to get on EU lmao. Stop living in 2021 already.
    (1)
    Last edited by Reinha; 11-14-2023 at 05:32 AM.

  2. #2
    Player
    Impia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2023
    Posts
    143
    Character
    Eloy Impia
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Housing is not difficult to get on EU lmao. Stop living in 2021 already.
    It's amazing how many people love to comment like this on problems they are completely outside of.
    (2)

  3. #3
    Player
    Reinha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    4,069
    Character
    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    It's amazing how many people love to comment like this on problems they are completely outside of.
    Like you commenting on housing shortage when you are on dynamis?
    (1)

  4. #4
    Player
    Impia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2023
    Posts
    143
    Character
    Eloy Impia
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Like you commenting on housing shortage when you are on dynamis?
    The difference is that I'm listening to the affected party's feelings on the matter and acknowledging their concerns (a foreign concept for you I know, but try to keep up here) while you on the other hand dismiss their valid feelings on the matter as non-issues because you're not an affected party.

    These are not the same thing, but go ahead and continue to be obtuse.
    (1)

  5. #5
    Player
    Reinha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    4,069
    Character
    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    The difference is that I'm listening to the affected party's feelings on the matter and acknowledging their concerns (a foreign concept for you I know, but try to keep up here) while you on the other hand dismiss their valid feelings on the matter as non-issues because you're not an affected party.

    These are not the same thing, but go ahead and continue to be obtuse.
    You were calling someone who multiowns on Dynamis out of all places a bad actor who's actions are a detriment to others, so by saying that whose concerns were you validating exactly? The concerns of people who can't get a house on Dynamis because they don't know how to create a character and finish the tutorial quest?

    You should at least inform yourself of who has a housing shortage before you start white knighting for them if you don't want to keep coming across as foolish and arrogant the way you have so far.
    (1)

  6. #6
    Player
    Impia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2023
    Posts
    143
    Character
    Eloy Impia
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    You were calling someone who multiowns on Dynamis out of all places a bad actor who's actions are a detriment to others, so by saying that whose concerns were you validating exactly? The concerns of people who can't get a house on Dynamis because they don't know how to create a character and finish the tutorial quest?

    You should at least inform yourself of who has a housing shortage before you start white knighting for them if you don't want to keep coming across as foolish and arrogant the way you have so far.
    No regrets. We are ideologically opposed, there's no common ground here and no room for compromise. I do not believe multi-owners should be allowed to do what they do. It damages the entire community, and the only people who think differently are a part of the multi-owner echochamber themselves. I'm not exactly thrilled that so many of them have started stinking up the wards on Dynamis.

    You calling anyone else arrogant is laughable.
    (3)
    Last edited by Impia; 11-14-2023 at 07:54 AM.

  7. #7
    Player
    Reinha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    4,069
    Character
    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    It's amazing how many people love to comment like this on problems they are completely outside of.
    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    We are ideologically opposed, there's no common ground here and no room for compromise. I do not believe multi-owners should be allowed to do what they do. It damages the entire community,
    It's not that we're ideologically opposed, it's that you contradict yourself at every turn and can't decide if you should agree with me that some servers are not experiencing any kind of shortage due to multiowning.

    So, as an EU player, am I outside the problem or not? If I am outside the problem, then it does not damage "the entire community" which I am a part of.
    (1)

  8. #8
    Player
    Jojoya's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    9,091
    Character
    Jojoya Joya
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Housing is not difficult to get on EU lmao. Stop living in 2021 already.
    I'll be honest, I haven't checked out housing availability on EU since just before EW launched.

    So then it sounds like it's just an NA problem.
    (1)

  9. #9
    Player
    Reinha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    4,069
    Character
    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I'll be honest, I haven't checked out housing availability on EU since just before EW launched.

    So then it sounds like it's just an NA problem.
    Shiva has 600+ houses of which 300 are private/unrestricted and that's the lowest number on EU. Other older servers have around 800-900 empty plots or more and that's been a stable number since July.

    There are also some older NA servers which have now had more than one cycle with 0 bid personal houses (Sargatanas and Ultros to name a couple), so effectively it's a problem that only affects some older NA servers but not all of them. 6 more wards to every non-Dynamis NA server would be enough to satisfy the demand, I reckon.
    (1)