(Large Housing Problem) 177 Bids on One House

[Ancalagon_Blacktalon]

yeah like, apartments were mentioned and:

1.) tbh not a lot of people even know about them. I found out that they exist as a concept when another FC member told me about it. Houses get all the buzz, and of course in wards they're visible too. It's easy for the uninitiated to assume that the Big Building That Is Clearly Made By The Devs is set-dressing, or a building dedicated to logistics for housing.

2.) They are intensely tiny. I have mine decorated to the gills and I would love to have a separate bathroom and bedroom. As is I have to use paper screen items to attempt to sequester it into "personal" and "public" spaces.

3.) And of course, you can't use outdoor items at all with them.

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I saw someone compare housing to Ultimates earlier and I think that is ridiculous. It'd be the equivalent to getting items as quest rewards/fate rewards/tribal vendor that could only be used in Ultimates. The issue with housing is that the game is constantly reminding you of a feature you are locked out of solely because of RNG and its inherent limited availability. If you want to do an ultimate, you grab some people and go die repeatedly. If you want to do housing, it is even more RNG than fishing is, and even worse, it is competitive RNG, because unlike with something like fishing it's not the server you're battling against to get what you want, it's other players. Which just increases the negative vibes of it all.

I also saw earlier a claim that like, people who don't care about housing want instanced housing? I mean, IMO it's hard to care about something that appears fundamentally unobtainable to you - it's a self-feeding cycle of "I can't get that thing so I'll go do something else" -> claims of limited demand, so nothing gets fixed, repeat for ten years. Implement instanced housing like someone said earlier - with like, fantastical venues, or hell, even locations that don't have housing - and give people more granular perms and I think they'll lose their minds over it. Customizeable, if janky, stuff like adventurer plates and especially portraits have taken off in the relatively short time they've been around, so the desire for self-expression is there.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

To be fair it used to be hard to come by 20million gil.

[Veritas-Ancora]

Waaay back 10 years ago, the idea of owning a large was impossibe. But also back then, dungeons didn't drop money. You had to sell all the items in the dungeon to get money. It was a different time.

[Jojoya]

Waaay back 10 years ago, the idea of owning a large was impossibe. But also back then, dungeons didn't drop money. You had to sell all the items in the dungeon to get money. It was a different time.

It was only impossible if you were new to the game.

The original prices for houses were an attempt to purge more of the gil that legacy players had carried over from 1.0 out of the player economy. There were plenty of players able to afford them if they wanted one.

Once SE decided that housing had gotten as much of that legacy gil as it was going to be able to get, they began reducing prices to help out those new to the game.

[BiblicallHeal]

Hello everyone. I want to buy a large house for 1 year now, on Twintania EU, the situation is very hard for most of players. I suggest making a new system for houses. What I have in mind is a progressive upgrade system for users from a small house, to a medium one and then to a large one. everything will be paid with gil and the exterior scheme of the house will be done inside each house by an specific npc. It is the only system that will work for everyone. Of course, not everyone will be able to afford the upgrade, but when users get their economy up, they will be able to do it in future. The endless opening of new residential areas is not a viable solution! Please listen to us, the players who want something more revolutionary for 2024 and future. The game must evolve for the better and the players must be satisfied, that's why we pay the game and the monthly fee. I know it's hard for IT engineers, but I hope a viable solution will arrive in the future.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart and i hope that this problem will be solved as soon as possible considering that new players will appear in the game on the next expansion and the problem will become much more difficult. The system of houses in the game must be upgraded as soon as possible. Thank you once again and I greet you with all respect.

[Kaiproberts]

Hello everyone. I want to buy a large house for 1 year now, on Twintania EU, the situation is very hard for most of players. I suggest making a new system for houses. What I have in mind is a progressive upgrade system for users from a small house, to a medium one and then to a large one. everything will be paid with gil and the exterior scheme of the house will be done inside each house by an specific npc. It is the only system that will work for everyone. Of course, not everyone will be able to afford the upgrade, but when users get their economy up, they will be able to do it in future. The endless opening of new residential areas is not a viable solution! Please listen to us, the players who want something more revolutionary for 2024 and future. The game must evolve for the better and the players must be satisfied, that's why we pay the game and the monthly fee. I know it's hard for IT engineers, but I hope a viable solution will arrive in the future.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart and i hope that this problem will be solved as soon as possible considering that new players will appear in the game on the next expansion and the problem will become much more difficult. The system of houses in the game must be upgraded as soon as possible. Thank you once again and I greet you with all respect.

They already announced they are looking into this and called it housing "mirage". We don't know how easy it will be to implement with existing in-game systems. We don't know if they can even do it. They haven't told us anything other than they are looking into it.

[Solowing]

They already announced they are looking into this and called it housing "mirage". We don't know how easy it will be to implement with existing in-game systems. We don't know if they can even do it. They haven't told us anything other than they are looking into it.

Given how they would need to redesign the spaces for upgrading a house to a mansion. And the word "Mirage" I think its going to be a interior specific change.

[LianaThorne]

Given how they would need to redesign the spaces for upgrading a house to a mansion. And the word "Mirage" I think its going to be a interior specific change.

I really feel like people should be cautiously optimistic when it comes to Mirage. People expected IS to be this instanced housing vacation paradise mixed with Stardew and that's definitely not what we got. I would not be shocked if Mirage just let you change interior pillars and staircase types so people can flip between housing district interiors.

[Reinha]

I would not be shocked if Mirage just let you change interior pillars and staircase types so people can flip between housing district interiors.

I expect it to be exactly that, different skins. Changing floor layouts, staircase direction, room size, pillar location, the pre-built walls in a mansion or railings would require them to change how characters collide with the interior in order for us to place housing items and walk in places where we currently can't. They way this mirage thing was commented on, it didn't sound to me like they are planning to overhaul housing interiors.

[Khryseis_Astra]

I expect it to be exactly that, different skins. Changing floor layouts, staircase direction, room size, pillar location, the pre-built walls in a mansion or railings would require them to change how characters collide with the interior in order for us to place housing items and walk in places where we currently can't. They way this mirage thing was commented on, it didn't sound to me like they are planning to overhaul housing interiors.

After seeing a different translation of those comments, where what was originally called “mirage” was translated as “glamour,” I’m thinking you both may be right… either the ability to change the interior style, be that switching neighborhood themes for pillars, or just a “plain” layout that straight up removes them altogether. And that’s still an improvement, for anyone that’s using multiple partitions to cover up the walls and pillars.

I mean, technically the insides are instanced, so being able to have any size interior for any size exterior is something that’s totally possible, and wouldn’t involve anything new with regards to how the existing interiors act, beyond creating a UI panel of some sort to select the interior size. But you’re right that moving staircases and such is probably not where they’re going with it, as much as I’d like not only that option, but more custom interior layouts in general. At this point I’m just hoping personals someday get the ability to add on apartment sized rooms like FC houses do.