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    MAJRIS's Avatar
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    Maybe the reports are only JP datacenter?
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    clearly, real or not, their ban numbers are not having any effect.

    they need to take off the kid gloves and ban the buyers. no buyers, no demand. as long as there is real money to be made, the bots will be here.

    as it stands now, they only post numbers to show they are doing something. so they could be fake, what difference does it make? because the bots in game... are getting out of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    they need to take off the kid gloves and ban the buyers. no buyers, no demand. as long as there is real money to be made, the bots will be here.
    This. Though, some botting isn’t for money. Had a bot as co-healer in Aglaia. Stood in the same spot for almost the entirety of the fights, remained in the middle of giant aoes, not even attempting to move away, just casting self heal and broil. The worse part is that it had the battle mentor crown. Not sure what there is to gain from that given that it’s not even for xp as it’s lvl 90.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 10-18-2023 at 11:20 PM.

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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Square Enix doesn't care about bots and encourages botting in general I find.

    Marilith is pretty overrun with bots, I've reported them and less than nothing happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Square Enix doesn't care about bots and encourages botting in general I find.

    Marilith is pretty overrun with bots, I've reported them and less than nothing happens.
    Saying they don't care is one thing but encourages??? Care to explain.

    Cuz if they encouraged it, they wouldn't have ban reports posted.

    This isn't me saying bots aren't a problem. I'm just not the person that cares enough to come up with a solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Saying they don't care is one thing but encourages??? Care to explain.

    Cuz if they encouraged it, they wouldn't have ban reports posted.

    This isn't me saying bots aren't a problem. I'm just not the person that cares enough to come up with a solution.
    I view any system added that rewards botting without taking any steps to prevent it as encouraging botting.

    Much like how I view the housing system as a love letter to RMT.
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    Player PetThisMiqo's Avatar
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    Voidsent Catte
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    I have never seen such bots and I doubt they exist. Even if they do I doubt they're harming your gaming experience. This is just another complaint thread made for the purpose of complaining and attacking Square Enix.
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetThisMiqo View Post
    I have never seen such bots and I doubt they exist.
    Probably bait but idc, this post unlocked a memory and I'm bored. I remember when I first began playing this game and thought this was true, that there were no bots. I hadn't seen any, after all. I was super impressed by how there was no anticheat running in the background but there were also somehow no bots running around. I thought maybe since SE was running the show, they'd used their riches and resources to somehow do the impossible. Then, about a week into playing the game, I was standing in Limsa by that tree near the aetheryte. A midlander male approached the edge of the invisible wall... and stepped off. Then he flew away, walking on air, and disappeared after a while, sort of like Mary Poppins vanishing over the horizon only without an umbrella. The doubts began to form in my mind. Later, shortly after Shadowbringers came out and the game was extremely popular, I tried to leave Ul'dah. The game told me the zone outside was congested, and to try again later. Parked on top of me were other players who had been similarly booted. Except their names were all gibberish. And they were all little lalafell boys who looked the exact same. My doubts deepened.

    And then, one day, somebody in Limsa told me to type /icam and look around for a bit. I did. icam opened the "idle camera" mode, which is just a mode where you can use a cool camera that randomly jumps to different players in a town. It's like a fun way to people watch without moving your character around, because the camera does it for you. The camera swapped over to a Roegadyn relaxing by a tree. To a lalafell running to the market. To a catboy seducing another catboy. And then... the camera leapt to another player who was underneath the city. And sure enough, he was a lalaboy who looked like the lalafell boys I mentioned earlier. Basic preset lalaboy, under the city. And he was standing in a tightly packed cluster of lalaboys that all looked just like him, huddled together like spider eggs, under the city. Just standing there. All with gibberish names. Waiting.


    Later still, I learned that actually, this game is extremely insecure. I have seen people using certain naughty tools to simply tell the game "hey, I can run really really fast" and the game just says "seems legit to me" and that's how you get those guys who zoom through Ul'dah at Sonic speeds for memes. They don't even get banned because, I guess, even if the game detects some stuff server side, nothing comes of it?? I don't know. There was a bald dude in Balmung who would literally speed through uldah whenever I saw him, and afaik homie's still chillin'. Used to see him all the time. Dude seemed like a chill memer so I'm not trying to put him on blast, just saying like ... nobody on staff seems to give a shit about enforcing anything unless you hurt someone's feelings in a dungeon with mean words. Do I personally care? Hell no. I think this shit's funny af. But it's just another example of how this game's full of holes and god I hope we never have to deal with gameguard or xigncode or some other garbage rootkit trash that makes games run like crap, but I wouldn't be surprised if one day the devs just threw their hands up and installed something, because every year people get bolder and stupider. Best part is, those anticheats don't even work half the time; the genuine cheaters bypass it with ease and regular users get banned for false positives. God I hope we don't see that crap in this game ever.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 10-19-2023 at 09:42 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshida-san
    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

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    Player Ravenblade1979's Avatar
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    Anastasia Minou-rose
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    Adamantoise
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    I mean a fix would be to have auto teleport to gm jail if your character ends up somewhere it's not supposed to be like under the map lol
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    I mean a fix would be to have auto teleport to gm jail if your character ends up somewhere it's not supposed to be like under the map lol
    How does that fix anything? The bots will probably end up programmed to use a teleport hack to get back to their last location.

    And let's not forget the poor player that ends up out of bounds due to some sort of accidental glitch and then has to wait several hours to get out of the GM jail while the GMs are sorting through the bots.

    There are no easy answers to the bot problem because they're driven by player demand. Unless player demand disappears, the bots will always be there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I view any system added that rewards botting without taking any steps to prevent it as encouraging botting.

    Much like how I view the housing system as a love letter to RMT.
    It's not the system that is rewarding botting. It's the players who rely on their services that do.
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