2 minute meta: Rework or Remove?

[Turtledeluxe]

Remove.

The more I have looked into it the more I have realized that all of the job changes people hate and the two minute meta are driven by raiders and these concerns:

- FFlogs need to be "balanced" or roles risk not being taken to raids. Oh no. It's not like the participation rates are balanced for prog anyway even though we have achieved this alleged balance. Players are always going to decide a meta party based on the current Job design regardless of classes being balanced.

- Job X gets envious of job Y when they have utility, mitigation, healing etc that job X lacks. Job X says they need what Y has bc without it there is no way for their class to be viable or fun. Class x gets what Y has. This is why jobs have become homogenized outside perhaps BLM. Once again it is in the name of making classes preferred for group play.

-Raiders complained that managing buffs for bursts was too hard so devs have made it easy mode with the two minute burst with no regard for how it affects easier content.

Option 1 works too but Option 2 imo gives devs the breathing room to get more creative with classes and focus on their roles and how they feel. If a class has a buff it should be relevant to their role as a utility centric class.

[ZiraZ]

I'm curious if anyone that wants raid buffs completely removed even raids. I mean completely removed, asking for a raid buff rework is perfectly understandable, worth discussing and high IQ, but wanting them completely removed is just about the biggest smooth brain behavior I can think of, I can't fathom why anyone that actively raids wanting to go down this exit route.