Please include Leveling PvP Gear beyond Lv.60

[Atelier-Bagur]

Its a shame that they stopped making gear sets with attributes after the Lv.60 Beastlord sets.

This can help circumvent the current issue newer players may run with overleveling and not being able to queue for alliance raids due to ilv change.

If theyre provided with an extra avenue for acquiring gear thats appropriate for their level with wolf marks, itll also encourage newer players to try PvP.

[Toutatis]

That would make a lot of sense.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

A level 65, 75, 85 and 95 set from PvP.
With 3 Materia Slots, and interesting stats compared to the "tomestone gear". As a an alternative to crafting and dungeon drops.

But also making it not so brief to get, an interesting power-choice at the expense of "compromise and atention" in PvP.


There should really be an extensive economy with Wolf Collars, not only the Hellhound weapons: Items that requiere anything between 50 to 999 Wolf Collars, and an increase to Wolf Mark cap to 100,000 - To trade in for Wolf Collars, an option to the Crystal Purchase.

[Toutatis]

A level 65, 75, 85 and 95 set from PvP.
With 3 Materia Slots, and interesting stats compared to the "tomestone gear". As a an alternative to crafting and dungeon drops..

65, 85, 95 would be pointless. You get your set at 85, play a match, do a roulette and you’re already at 86. You don’t stay at those levels for long and the sets would be useless to get into Alliance roulette.

[Fyrebrand]

Level requirements on PvP rewards just means that lower-level players can't benefit, and you can't use it to glam low-level gear on alts. PvP is a level-agnostic game mode anyhow.

Anyhow, let's say they put endgame gear with attributes as PvP rewards. Maybe it's decent when it gets released, but as soon as the next patch gives us a new dungeon, or a new raid, there's a whole set of better gear available. The PvP gear would immediately become obsolete.

A level 65, 75, 85 and 95 set from PvP.
With 3 Materia Slots, and interesting stats compared to the "tomestone gear". As a an alternative to crafting and dungeon drops.

Does anybody actually put materia on leveling gear?

Also, materia doesn't even function in PvP. So if you're using PvP to level, it doesn't do anything. If you want to use it when you go run a dungeon, well then you're likely going to get gear drops from the dungeon anyway. And in another couple of levels the next dungeon gear will be superior to what you got in PvP.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Level requirements on PvP rewards just means that lower-level players can't benefit, and you can't use it to glam low-level gear on alts. PvP is a level-agnostic game mode anyhow.

Anyhow, let's say they put endgame gear with attributes as PvP rewards. Maybe it's decent when it gets released, but as soon as the next patch gives us a new dungeon, or a new raid, there's a whole set of better gear available. The PvP gear would immediately become obsolete.



Does anybody actually put materia on leveling gear?

Also, materia doesn't even function in PvP. So if you're using PvP to level, it doesn't do anything. If you want to use it when you go run a dungeon, well then you're likely going to get gear drops from the dungeon anyway. And in another couple of levels the next dungeon gear will be superior to what you got in PvP.

I can understand the issues with trying to apply current endgame gear into PvP since that revolves tackling the heavily skewed mess that is FFXIV's gearing progression. But I dont follow on what you mean with the leveling requirements. We already have lv.50 and lv.60 PvP sets that are beneficial to new players whom most likely have characters at 50-60 before finishing ARR due to how quickly you gain levels. The other point was to also give a solution to the current Alliance Roulette problem where now new players are being barred from queuing a daily because it's forcing them to get gear thats appropriate for their high job level but cant access said gear because of msq progression.

What I'm asking is for the devs to continue where they left off with the rewards for Wolf Marks.

Your point about glaming low-level character alts is super niche since not many people have alt characters. The game isnt designed for it due to how alt unfriendly it is. And even then there's nothing that's stopping the devs to continue making lv.1 glam PvP rewards anyway. If you havent noticed, they started having you purchase the new glam stuff with Trophy Crystals rather than Wolf Marks.

[Fyrebrand]

We already have lv.50 and lv.60 PvP sets that are beneficial to new players whom most likely have characters at 50-60 before finishing ARR due to how quickly you gain levels.

I assume those sets were created back when 50 or 60 were the actual level cap, and nobody was overleveled past the current expansion. But even today, just because someone's overleveled to 60 in ARR doesn't mean they need level 60 gear.

The other point was to also give a solution to the current Alliance Roulette problem where now new players are being barred from queuing a daily because it's forcing them to get gear thats appropriate for their high job level but cant access said gear because of msq progression.

Hmm, okay well that's a valid concern I suppose. My main job was level 90 before I was even finished Shadowbringers, so I can understand being in that position. Although, being cut off from Alliance Raid roulette is not the end of the world. The main reason to queue for AR Roulette is the xp (which clearly you don't need if you're overleveled to the next expansion), and Tomestones of Poetics. The roulette gives you 120 tomes, which sucks to miss out on, but you can get 100 tomes just by queueing manually for any of them. You can also get 100 tomes from 50/60/70/80 roulette. Or 80 from normal Raid roulette. Or 350 from Main Scenario Roulette. You also get tomes just by playing PvP. Use the tomes to buy gear. If you don't have access to your level's tomestone vendor because you haven't reached that point in MSQ, then you do not need gear of that level yet anyway.

Alternatively, NPC merchants sell basic gear. Or you can buy some off the market board.

Your point about glaming low-level character alts is super niche since not many people have alt characters. The game isnt designed for it due to how alt unfriendly it is.

I meant alt jobs, not alt characters. Sorry if that wasn't clear. For example, you have one healer with a cool glam setup but you can't apply it to a lower-level healing job due to level restrictions. With how few glamour plates the game gives us, this really sucks. But I guess it's not really a point against your argument since most gear in the game is like this anyhow.

I'm not really AGAINST this idea, it wouldn't be a BAD thing. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how it is necessary. Nobody needs gear that's way beyond where they are in MSQ. The Alliance Raid restrictions were not implemented perfectly, and I think it should take into account things like MSQ progress before it locks you out. But again, it's just a roulette.

[Atelier-Bagur]

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Its for the sake of solving the multitud of current problems with the new player experience, and there's a myriad of ways they could go about fixing it although it most likely will require more effort. This is just the less painful way for the devs to provide a solution to the A problem they've implemented; while also potentially encouraging players to do extra content such as PvP while they're doing the MSQ. And like I said the main issue is the casual msq progression not correlating to how quickly a player levels (they wont have access to vendors where they could purchase higher level gear) Some new players enjoy doing roulettes for leveling, especially Alliance Roulettes, so them being punished for not finishing current msq is just weird. Ofcourse the high level gear isnt really needed for old content but like I said, players play MMOs for character progression.

Besides, I think the idea of having an alternate method of gearing via PvP at least during the early game is a fun way to do it.

I suppose the other solution if people are just so adamantly against adding more PvP rewards idea is just to allow the NPC Poetics vendors that are stationed by the Limsa, Gridania and Uldah aetheryte plazas to add the rest of the wares from the other expansions. That would also solve the roulette issue and probably be even less of an effort on the devs but personally thats boring. I think the opportunity to encourage more people to do PvP with more rewards sounds funner.

[GTK0HLK]

So in other words Glamour but you cannot use it for all classes or roles til you level up, which in that point loses charm when leveling.

Just like you can't have Evolving gear(that goes up in level as you grow).

We get that you want changes to what was special of older sets/Garo.

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But I'd rather they 0'd the sets, so I can glamour pieces to Lower Ilvl sets.

Hell, do that for all glamouring, so I can have a PvP set from Race Gear Pieces.
annoying to have to continually adjust gear and portraits when you can have pvp sets permanently. if only you can glamour higher level items onto lower/0 ilvl or level 1 items.

[Atelier-Bagur]

So in other words Glamour but you cannot use it for all classes or roles til you level up, which in that point loses charm when leveling.

Just like you can't have Evolving gear(that goes up in level as you grow).

We get that you want changes to what was special of older sets/Garo.

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But I'd rather they 0'd the sets, so I can glamour pieces to Lower Ilvl sets.

Hell, do that for all glamouring, so I can have a PvP set from Race Gear Pieces.
annoying to have to continually adjust gear and portraits when you can have pvp sets permanently. if only you can glamour higher level items onto lower/0 ilvl or level 1 items.

That isnt the point. This is about helping newer players get better gear when they overlevel (which is very easy to do in this game, even without the Road to 80 buff) and for also be able to participate in Alliance Raid Roulettes after the recent change. Endgame players like us wont matter if the new sets are higher level, because we'd already be at max level to glam over them anyway.

It also helps incentivize more pvp as well for alt job progression. This take isnt helping anyone.