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  1. #31
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CamuiKushi View Post
    I really wish the devs would just turn off ears for all head-obscuring gear or make it a toggle command or something. It would immediately solve the Hrothgar/Viera problem and the few other pieces of gear that clip for other races. I literally don't care that it makes no physical sense, I just want to wear hats.
    If my Viera had to lose his ears to wear hats, then I don't want him to wear hats anyway. I already avoid a lot of hats on Miqo'te because they delete ears or handle them badly.

    In any case...


    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    I wonder if it's the placement of their horns. That could cause unique complications. And you're right: if Au Ra horns clip with everything, then why can't they just let Viera ears clip through (most of) the hats and helmets?
    The problem isn't just ears, but hairstyles. For whatever reason – maybe because they originally planned no hats, or maybe some more obscure technical reason – they built Viera hairstyles so they can't "break in half" and hide only the top part, as usually happens when a character has a hat equipped. They can only wear headgear if all or none of the hair is visible, and the ears have nothing directly to do with it.

    It's why they're able to wear things like hoods, and why what does and doesn't work is so patchy. They can wear the level 90 reaper hat (bindings cover the hair underneath) but not the level 90 red mage hat, or can wear the hoods from the Rinascita gear series but not the berets.
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  2. #32
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    ronibosch's Avatar
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    Tuul Muluk
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The problem isn't just ears, but hairstyles. For whatever reason – maybe because they originally planned no hats, or maybe some more obscure technical reason – they built Viera hairstyles so they can't "break in half" and hide only the top part, as usually happens when a character has a hat equipped. They can only wear headgear if all or none of the hair is visible, and the ears have nothing directly to do with it.

    It's why they're able to wear things like hoods, and why what does and doesn't work is so patchy. They can wear the level 90 reaper hat (bindings cover the hair underneath) but not the level 90 red mage hat, or can wear the hoods from the Rinascita gear series but not the berets.
    My sources may be incorrect or suffer from the grapevine or lost in translation effects, but didn't they promise exclusive hairstyles for Viera (and, to an extent, Hrothgar) at first? I wonder if that's why they developed the hair the way they did.

    Hopefully, they're able to fix it somehow.
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  3. #33
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    Caro Calise
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    My sources may be incorrect or suffer from the grapevine or lost in translation effects, but didn't they promise exclusive hairstyles for Viera (and, to an extent, Hrothgar) at first? I wonder if that's why they developed the hair the way they did.

    Hopefully, they're able to fix it somehow.
    The more skeptical will say he lied, but YoshiP has clarified a few times that the interview where he supposedly said Viera and Hrothgar would get more exclusive-to-them hairstyles was mistranslated. Which, yeah, mistranslation actually happens all the time. Whether he actually said it or not it's pretty clear at this point that it's not happening. Ultimately the reality is players wanted the hairstyles everybody else could obtain as rewards through grindable content or the online shop. They did not actually want hypothetical exclusive hairstyles because not having the same stuff everybody else does sucks. The solution to just give them all the normal default and unlockable hairstyles was the better one in my opinion and is what will probably lead to hats being addressed as well... one day. Like the other poster here said the problem with headgear is actually tied to hairstyles, not how easy it is to shove a pair of ears through the top of a hat.
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  4. #34
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    Tuul Muluk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    The more skeptical will say he lied, but YoshiP has clarified a few times that the interview where he supposedly said Viera and Hrothgar would get more exclusive-to-them hairstyles was mistranslated. Which, yeah, mistranslation actually happens all the time. Whether he actually said it or not it's pretty clear at this point that it's not happening. Ultimately the reality is players wanted the hairstyles everybody else could obtain as rewards through grindable content or the online shop. They did not actually want hypothetical exclusive hairstyles because not having the same stuff everybody else does sucks. The solution to just give them all the normal default and unlockable hairstyles was the better one in my opinion and is what will probably lead to hats being addressed as well... one day. Like the other poster here said the problem with headgear is actually tied to hairstyles, not how easy it is to shove a pair of ears through the top of a hat.
    Yeah, honestly I'm cool with the shared hairstyles. Like you said, hopefully it leads to hats sometime in the future. It's just those exclusive Viera (and Hrothgar?) hairstyles that need fixing!

    In the meantime, I'll keep working around the restrictions. ;-;
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