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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    While Im sure we can agree that venue RP is definitely the most popular right now, I see all sorts of other types in PF every day. Cafes, sports bars, casinos, resturaunt RP, art shows, etc. IDK what the problem is...
    As someone who isn't really seeing those, how many of those are actually set up to be Locations in Eorzea and not just using FFXIV as a convenient chat+ avatar application?

    Bc the last time I can recall seeing Something like the former was early shb. Everything I seen recently basicly had you leave eorzea at the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    As someone who isn't really seeing those, how many of those are actually set up to be Locations in Eorzea and not just using FFXIV as a convenient chat+ avatar application?

    Bc the last time I can recall seeing Something like the former was early shb. Everything I seen recently basicly had you leave eorzea at the door.
    Pretty much. If it can't be overly monetized and/or involve "dancers" then it's not worth having as a form of RP these days. Maybe it's different on other DCs but that's just the reality of NA. It's very rare to find something that doesn't open at 9PM+ lol.
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    Setting up a separate subcategory in PF is a reasonable request. That way the venues get separated out from FC recruitment (why is there no dedicated in-game recruitment tool??), crafting commissions and other activities that are also placed under Other.

    If you think that the core activity of the game is venues because that's all you see in shout, try playing the game instead of spending all your time sitting around in Limsa, Ul'dah or Gridania. The reason why those cities end up with most of the venue spam is because that's where the players not doing anything hang out - prime audience for venues. I go in and out of those cities frequently while I'm playing but the venue spam doesn't add up enough to be annoying in the 2-3 minutes I'm there. I stay focused on the reason that took me into the city.

    TLR The venues bother you because you let them bother you. Stop letting them bother you by actively using your time for something more than reading shout spam.

    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Pretty much. If it can't be overly monetized and/or involve "dancers" then it's not worth having as a form of RP these days. Maybe it's different on other DCs but that's just the reality of NA. It's very rare to find something that doesn't open at 9PM+ lol.
    But that's not what RP is.

    Again, people are conflating virtual venues and RP when they are very different things.

    Someone mentioned a sports bar as "RP" earlier. Well unless all they're discussing at that sports bar is chocobo racing and Franz the Fair's last battle at the Coliseum, chances are it's not a RP spot at all. It's a just a place where players get together to talk about real life sporting events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    But that's not what RP is.

    Again, people are conflating virtual venues and RP when they are very different things.

    Someone mentioned a sports bar as "RP" earlier. Well unless all they're discussing at that sports bar is chocobo racing and Franz the Fair's last battle at the Coliseum, chances are it's not a RP spot at all. It's a just a place where players get together to talk about real life sporting events.
    I'm aware what the traditional definition of RP is, I've been apart of several different communities for it across the last 10+ years.

    I'm saying when RP is brought up in 14, it's either people pointing to venues as "RP" or asking if ERP is involved. I've heard on more than one occasion, especially recently, that if you don't have Mare and have no interest in ERP then you're passed over as a partner the majority of the time. This is just how it is now lol. It's sad but yeah...big reason why I distanced myself from it over the last year or so. Just still get told things from friends and in public spaces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It was also someone trying to point out that the majority of venue shouts you see in the cities do not constitute spam by SE's definition.
    Many do spam though, shouting the same 3 paragraph long message that more than fills your entire chat window every few minutes. I’ve also had a look at that tab of PF last night and 3 venues were advertised several times each and formed the majority of the posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    So you're passed over by people who are looking for cybersex and aren't actually interested in RP.
    1. Wasn't me, as I said these are things I'm told.
    2. Not to fluff my own ego but I don't know how it feels to be passed over in this game as I am a Miqo and a pretty decent writer at that.
    3. To them it is RP, just gotta roll with the times and evolve or stay out of it. I chose the latter and now RP in other games where I don't have to pay for a glass of water lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    As someone who isn't really seeing those, how many of those are actually set up to be Locations in Eorzea and not just using FFXIV as a convenient chat+ avatar application?

    Bc the last time I can recall seeing Something like the former was early shb. Everything I seen recently basicly had you leave eorzea at the door.
    We have Femboy Hooters, and I believe my own DC was hosting a "Playboy Mansion" the other night so my guess is: not many, lol.
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