Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
I'm not sure how I feel about the concept as a whole, but I don't dislike it on principle.
Yeh, I'd see it as like, Kardia augmentation gameplay would be like the fairy stuff on SCH (instead of haima/physis), and Addersgall tools are like Aetherflow. If you were to have only one, you'd have WHM, basically: just Lily heals, nothing else. I wouldn't want SGE to be like that

For the concern of 'constant trickle Kardia kinda sucks', I don't think it's too big a problem. As long as the augmentation based gameplay makes it feel strong, it having a default weak mode shouldn't be a problem. Could nerf it's potencies and make the augments stronger if it's needed for balance. Unless you meant 'only generate Addersgall from attacking', instead of over time with damage speeding it up, in which case, I'd also say that but I'm thinking about how you'd have certain sections where you need mit from the Addersgalls, but the boss is not targetable to recharge them (like High Concept, or P9S/P12S's limit cuts). The 'over time' guarantees that Jimmy NoThumbs would have at least a certain amount of Galls coming in (eg enough to cover the mit requirements of the fight), but players who are trying to optimize would find their Gall economy to be stronger (cos they're doing damage to get more), meaning less GCDs are required to cover the gaps, which means more damage, which means more Galls, etc. It'd have diminishing returns as you have less and less GCDs to remove from the fight, but I think that might be a good thing: the first steps someone takes to having less GCDs used, are the ones with the biggest impact on GCD count

I'm trying to imagine how you'd do something like Harrowing Hell, where you'd be burning everything you've stockpiled. It'd involve a lot of doubleweaves, I'd expect, blending both the Kardia augment and Addersgall spender sides of the kit. I also wonder if having a 1s CD on Indom/Ixochole would be considered OP, considering they're gated by Aetherflow/Addersgall. They're basically 'AOE Lustrate' anyway, and the Mit (Soil/Kera) heals for more than them anyway. I guess being able to instantly blast out 1200p by dumping 3 Addersgall would steal the Pure healer's job forever, though

Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
In my opinion, you can actually have both an interesting damage kit interaction and also interesting Kardia interactions, the key is interplay within the kit.

Let's say doing damage builds the addersgall gauge, then let's remove stuff like Druochole and Ixochole, instead, let's say the addersgall gauge is now used to augment Kardia in various ways. That creates interplay between doing damage and manipulating Kardia. Now let's say you have a damage spell equivalent in potency to your filler that converts 1 addersgall into an addersting, that then ties the addersgall gauge back into the damage kit.
Oh, I did it with the boring CDs that already 'augment things but not very well'. That is, Krasis, Soteria and Zoe. We use Krasis and Soteria together most of the time, and while 'eghhhh' feeling for that reason (And because tanks are so self-healy), I have to admit the actual healing they do together does feel pretty cool. So, aiming for gameplay centered around doing that, and being able to sustain the party by spreading the healing to everyone, would feel very cool (I hope) and be the goal. Zoe only ever gets used for two things, Pneuma, or 'scuffed Deployment Tactics'. I think keeping the Addersgall as they are wouldn't be terrible, as we would need our mit options to come from somewhere, and Ixochole, bland as it is, is still useful to 'combine' with other things. Essentially, 'augmenting' our augmented Kardia healing with an additional boost of an Addersgall heal. As mentioned above, changing Galls into the Kardia gameplay thing, instead of something else, would lead us to a WHM situation where it's just one thing for the gameplay, and I fear that'd get stale fast. Bouncing between the two systems would fit the lore/identity of the SGE better I think, especially if there's systems that interlink the two.