How do you define (meaningful) choice?

[TheDustyOne]

I feel like the people saying "meaningful consequence" aren't understanding what I mean by choice. Choice has to allow a player to choose actions, and if there is only one right and the punishment severe for not choosing it, that isn't a real choice. As someone said before, it's like offering a person poison or medicine to take when ill. While technically a choice, the reality is that there's only one true option as the other is never picked.

To me, to have meaningful choice requires having - at the minimum - more than one VIABLE choice, and situations where either option can be argued to be correct. Outside of that, it's not a choice. It's being right or wrong.

Again, you're conflating depth with meaning. Depth is good, we should want that, but just because you have multiple choices available (again, my Garuda vs Titan example) doesn't make the choices meaningful. Broil and Ruin are meaningful as they both have consequences to the choice and it's up to us to decide when it's worth taking the risks associated with that choice. Even the poison vs water example is meaningful as it can put emphasis on how much someone values their own life, or heck, whether or not that person is bluffing (certainly wouldn't count on that in that scenario) and as such, there's meaning behind the choice, even if it's an obvious choice for nearly everyone that values their life. If instead I had to choose between 2 brands of lemonade, there's a lot less meaning, either way I have lemonade.

Compare all this with BLM, we have multiple different ways we could move when we need to, but each one has consequences involved; I could use up my Thundercloud, but risk not having it proc later if I don't have Sharpcast up, or it means I have to reapply the DoT early, I could use a stack of Xenoglossy, but I may not be able to use one under raid buffs, I could use up a Firestarter proc, but that may mean I can't Transpose > Fire III in the next UI phase later, maybe I can use that stack of Triplecast, but I may end up having to use a stack on Blizzard III if I use it too late in my AF phase, Xenoglossy and Thundercloud also risks AF running out and tanking my damage. This is gameplay depth with meaningful choices.