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  1. #21
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    Carin-Eri's Avatar
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    Carin Eri
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Okay - not some YoshiP worshipper here. I respect him for turning the game around, but that's beside the point.

    Sorry - you lost me at "devs should be fired". No-one should lose their damn job/livelihood for inconveniencing some players in a game!
    (9)

  2. #22
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    maximesan514's Avatar
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    Ice Truck
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Here we go guys, I modified the thread ! Maybe that's better ?
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  3. #23
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by maximesan514 View Post
    Here we go guys, I modified the thread ! Maybe that's better ?
    A lot better. The question is completely justified, the approach was the only issue.
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  4. #24
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    maximesan514's Avatar
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    Ice Truck
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    A lot better. The question is completely justified, the approach was the only issue.
    I'm reformed
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  5. #25
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    Lyreia Lys
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Beside the rant, which I can rely to with on a certain extent, I’m on the same boat when talking about the over frustrating general state of the PvP at this time.
    FL are a generous b******t mess of people that cannot follow intructions when given to them. I have to cope with the fact that they don’t care about winning but I can’t absolutely dare to expect from them the bare minimum effort to try to even fight. For some reasons pvp went from 72 ppl, to 24, to 72 again. Like…why? At least an 8-men party is still carriable, but with 23 more people is just plain impossible. You can only queue with 4 people for literally no reason, since FL are not ranked or anything, still I can’t even dream to clear the Seal Rock achievement because lol. You can’t choose the grand company anymore because curse you if you want to stay with people that share your will to win. We have to stay in party with people that go wandering anywhere, like someone else said before, but cry if they encounter an alliance that genuenly wants to win and blast them.

    Let’s not talk about CC. Cannot queue with friends in casual mode, cannot choose if solo-duo the ranked like every f****g MMO game. Just put this game offline since every change that is coming is promoting solo-playing.

    The jobs balance is pure illusion btw. I don’t even want to enter in that endless abyss.
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  6. #26
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 90
    I bet the same people that complain about Frontlines the most are the ones that struggle to break 300k damage, has 5 or more deaths each match, and refuse to learn how to play.

    Drk+Team Ast isn't even hard to counter. It takes two whole brain cells and a key press to use Guard when there is a dark knight that doesn't belong to your team in the middle of your own. If your Guard is down when this happens, that means you were overextended without your defensive cooldowns.

    Drk+Asts are free BHs for my buddies and me. We flank the enemy and hoover up the ASTs to get +3 free kills since they're extremely squishy. But that seems impossible for most frontlines players since their definition of flanking an enemy is by running between two enemy teams fighting.

    TL;DR: Git Gud and Frontlines wont suck.
    (5)

  7. #27
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    Viorel Amala
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    frontline will always be a mess when cc/feast is the focus. this just how it is they wont make two different pvp playstyles
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  8. #28
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    Tanu Ki
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    frontline will always be a mess when cc/feast is the focus. this just how it is they wont make two different pvp playstyles
    If every person who had that apathetic attitude instead gave actual constructive requests and feedback, I guarantee you Frontlines wouldn't be in the state it's been in for years. 8 years of engrained apathy, reactionary gamer moments, and forum pissing contests are the reasons it is what it is.
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  9. #29
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    Character
    Eeto Jai
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 34
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    Drk+Team Ast isn't even hard to counter. It takes two whole brain cells and a key press to use Guard when there is a dark knight that doesn't belong to your team in the middle of your own. If your Guard is down when this happens, that means you were overextended without your defensive cooldowns.
    Please. Reactionary alone isn't enough. I can press shield while DRK is in mid-air, and still watch my HP drain to 0 under shield in 3 seconds.

    Premade DRK+AST is invincible. No reputable game would design two out of the 17 available jobs to effectively destroy over half of its opponents, not in such a short CD, requiring little skill and coordination to execute.

    Don't mistaken it as "skill". Everyone who abuses it knows it's a joke how easy it is to pull that combo off.


    TL;DR: No skill to execute combo, yet lots required to avoid dying, hence it's ridiculously imbalanced.
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    Last edited by eeto; 10-21-2023 at 03:12 PM.

  10. #30
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    If you get oneshot by a single DRK LB on its own there is probably something you're leaving out of the picture.
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