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    Player Nyxs's Avatar
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    No. Hard no. Def not.
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    No. Hard no. Def not.
    Yes, yes, Washoiiiiiii.
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    Remi Poemi
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    like Fungi? Mushroom people?
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remolia View Post
    like Fungi? Mushroom people?
    Axolotl people.
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Axolotl people.
    That would be adorable! If I ever play a Dragonborn in D&D some day I want to model them after an axolotl.
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    sindriiisgaming's Avatar
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Hear me out. Add a race after female hrothgar are added, but not a race with a gender. That way people can't complain.

    Instead make them non binary and gender ambiguous.
    why do you care what gender they identify as. this is just you saying youll only accept this race based on there gender identity. when it should be the last reason to look at the race, maybe this is a troll post, doubt it, but i would ask why you even need this... while it is true youre WOL can reflect who you are, they cant reflect everything , i have scoliosis, my wol cant reflect that... i cant even make him smaller. some things they just never will be able to reflect, youre you, there cant ever be another exactly like you, seeking that kinda validation in a video game avatar is never going to be achievable without insane modding
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    DragonFlyy's Avatar
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Hear me out. Add a race after female hrothgar are added, but not a race with a gender. That way people can't complain.

    Instead make them non binary and gender ambiguous.
    Except the entire dialog in the game is programmed around he/she, so sadly this wouldn't be possible without A) re-writing all the text dialog and B) re-recording all the spoken dialog. Not gonna happen. Also, they already said no new races.
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    Anvaire's Avatar
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    Rihan Nurarihyon
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    Except the entire dialog in the game is programmed around he/she, so sadly this wouldn't be possible without A) re-writing all the text dialog and B) re-recording all the spoken dialog. Not gonna happen. Also, they already said no new races.
    This is actually simple to rectify, the tags look for "male" or "female" so they would just need to add a choice so the player chooses and then over time update the game to add the option for "they"

    Adding "they" could also be added to the other races as a choice.

    The biggest issue isn't "can" they do it, but rather "should" they.

    For me that's a resounding yes. Though I would never use it as an option myself. But I think this is a separate issue to the one OP is asking for.

    For the question of a non binary race, I think that could be really interesting or awful depending on the design and implementation - but for me its a no simply because I think they should sort the Hrothgar and Viera Issues before adding another which would face similar issues.

    In place of new races, i would advocate new clans, faces and customisation options instead.

    So I guess my position is:

    - No to nonbinary race (While current issues remain unresolved)
    - Yes to non binary / trans identification
    - yes to more current race customisation

    - Yes to nonbinary race once current issues faced by Hrothgar and Viera are resolved and only if the new race would not have similar issues.
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvaire View Post
    This is actually simple to rectify, the tags look for "male" or "female" so they would just need to add a choice so the player chooses and then over time update the game to add the option for "they"

    Adding "they" could also be added to the other races as a choice.
    Uh-huh. And will that work for Japanese? Or German or French? Do they have a corresponding word for someone of unknown gender?
    I don't know, but it is quite possible they don't.
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Uh-huh. And will that work for Japanese? Or German or French? Do they have a corresponding word for someone of unknown gender?
    I don't know, but it is quite possible they don't.
    It can work pretty seamlessly in Japanese, as the grammar there tends to lean towards gender neutral speech to begin with - not always, but most of the time. To be honest it would be much easier to make Japanese text ambigous than it would to make English one ambigous. By a lot.

    German can get complicated in this sense - there are ways to make the speech more neutral, but it's a generally heavily gendered language.

    Can't speak for French as I don't know it.
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