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  1. #111
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    Soukyuu's Avatar
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Then you are having latency+slow computer load. And therein lies the trick. A lot of the 'latency whiners' actually have machines that struggle to load...at least at times.
    Latency, yes. Loading times, no. I have a (good) SSD, so file loading times are not an issue. My GPU is powerful enough to not deep under 30fps most of the time, and at the moment this is happening in moogle, it runs at ~50ish. Moogle is the only fight where I'm having more than a second delay on models displaying.

    The rest is communication between my client and the server -> latency. Also remember, SE said that slow NPC load is due to server architecture, not PC power. That was back at 1.02 or something.

    I'm not blaming latency on me failing simply because I don't. I can't find a group to even consider doing Garuda, so all I did so far is killing the mini one.
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  2. #112
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    The skill vs gear debate with Garuda is a good example.

    You need to think of a graph to compare the two. With Garuda DPS as the main variable.
    (Because the quicker she dies, the less hassle it is to win)

    If you have high skill but crappy gear, as long as the two graph lines intersect over the required DPS for Garuda
    then you are skilled enough.

    If you aren't quite skilled enough, you can get better gear to bring the gear line up until you are within the DPS for Garuda.

    (There are videos of LS's using Reindeer Suits/Naked beating Ifrit, yet people in full Gear still die, this would be the two extremes

    So for a lot of people that skill alone will never be enough to win Garuda.
    Good gear is needed for this fight.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 07-06-2012 at 02:00 AM.
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  3. #113
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    Amyas's Avatar
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curcio View Post
    The majority of the community hasn't even had a chance to touch Garuda. The majority of the population isn't doing Garuda because the majority of the population CAN'T do Garuda. They don't have melds, they don't have Darklight, and they don't have the weapons.
    You have just crushed all my hopes and dreams ;----;
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  4. #114
    Player Risae's Avatar
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    Risae Nyan
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Remember: NA/EU players can't kill Ifrit or Garuda due to latency or Lag. Anyone you know who killed it that isn't Japanese simply just happens to live in Japan....yeah.



    Simply get better? I'm sorry but we're done with blaming latency on not being able to kill a primal since early 2011 when people realized "maybe I just need to get better."

    Latency problems exist, as does Animation lag, but guess what? People use it as an excuse when they fail at their part of the fight.



    I'll be honest, only people who suck at dodging continue to blame latency. Do you blame latency when you can't dodge a Dodo burping or farting on you?



    ^ This person knows how an MMO is. You can win even with going in for fun, however blaming latency is so late 2010 early 2011..it's time to admit when one is just simply not good at dodging.
    Maybe i just need to get better? What? How the hell am i supposed to fight the boss AND latency?
    Jesus.
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  5. #115
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    Leo_Hart's Avatar
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    Leo Hart
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    Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    Maybe i just need to get better? What? How the hell am i supposed to fight the boss AND latency?
    Jesus.
    Obviously YOU cant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    Maybe i just need to get better? What? How the hell am i supposed to fight the boss AND latency?
    Jesus.
    I suppose everyone who clears Garuda these days all live in Japan, huh?
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  7. #117
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    Spy's Avatar
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    Mini Ninja
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    Masamune
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    I'm glad they made Garuda challenging...but it ticks me off that when I ask my ls to do her, most of them dont even want to try because we dont have "amazing gear"

    I want to just try her! I even suggested going in just to see if we could learn a strat. And one ls member was like, "It's not just about the strat...if you dont have good enough gear, you'll fail." I wanna call bs on his statement. I just need enough willing people to help me fight her.
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  8. #118
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    Leira_Raine's Avatar
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    Talia Renton
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I like a good challenge. I feel like I never get angry over anything, and when my parties die in game, I simply laugh while everyone else rages. It's just patience. Trust me, I would be THRILLED to join a Garuda party over and over and over.

    One more thing:

    The one time people die, people start getting testy with each other. It's about keeping cool, having fun, and great teamwork and skill, as mentioned.
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    Last edited by Leira_Raine; 07-06-2012 at 04:11 AM.
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  9. #119
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    Deceptistar Meow
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Curcio View Post
    The majority of the community hasn't even had a chance to touch Garuda. The majority of the population isn't doing Garuda because the majority of the population CAN'T do Garuda. They don't have melds, they don't have Darklight, and they don't have the weapons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    You have just crushed all my hopes and dreams ;----;
    you dont NEED darklight gear... we do fine without it. Its just keeping enough acc and dmg, whether its by food or materia or a combo of AF.

    Only thing is, you DO need to practice alot. Pple can tell you how to do it, but until you see and feel the timings for yourself, it will feel like its impossible.

    Maybe for those who want to try garuda more, try posting on the forums or something to see if pple are willing to do some statics?
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  10. #120
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    Eliseus Kayne
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    People are really complaining about latency issues on Garuda? lol? Just freaking pay attention to your game and watch when she tele's. It really isn't that hard.
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