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    This game needs less solo content.

    It is an MMORPG. Stop trying to sell the game to people that hate MMOs. I get the appeal of making it more appealing in comparison to other Final Fantasy games. It's understandable that they want to change the common thought that it isn't the same as other numbered titles. I 100% feel for the company in trying to preserve its legacy by adding more soloable content.

    But when you have an entire fanbase that LOVES mmos, who are enjoying this game, and you start taking away those moments that made the MMO magical, it isn't the game we love anymore. Give incentives that bring the playerbase together. Stop making content, and then abandoning it as soon as the expansion is over.

    - Island Sanctuary doesn't need a replacement. We do NOT need an Island Sanctuary 2. Keep the one we have, and add more content within it that we can do with other players. I am a big fan of Island Sanctuary, but I don't want a Sanctuary 2. Just make it so we can farm with friends, and continue upgrading it.

    - Stop making relics lonely and boring. Make them back to being with other players. I want to go on an epic adventure for these weapons once again.

    - It's fine to make old dungeons work with the trust system, but stop taking away mechanics that make it engaging, and fun.

    - More Criterion Rewards. More bossfights on each separate path. More incentives to play together in Criterion. Perhaps a roulette for the different criterion dungeons, that way more people will be able to complete it with others.

    - More incentives for different modes. Rival Wings is DEAD, but its a really fun pvp mode. Make it in roulette already. We have been begging for years.

    - Shared fates is great, and was a good step, but people still aren't doing them enough. Find more ways to get people into the overworld.

    - Party Finder and Duty Finder needs to be cross data center, so that more people will stay on their datacenters. It's frustrated to have to travel just to do raiding now. It never should of been a thing without Party Finder, or Duty Finder.

    - Ishgard Restoration was fun, and a great way to hype up the fanbase. Make that happen again. There are plenty of areas that could use some repairing, and rebuilding. Ala Mhigo, Doma, and Garlmald need repairs done. There is no reason we couldn't revisit any of those. Even with Doma technically having a restoration already, an even larger one would be awesome. Get the players working together!

    - Figure out some way to get people to stop having private workshops. Yes, I said that correctly. People are buying up entire sections of wards, and bullying others just for workshops. There needs to be a way to limit people from having more than one of them on a datacenter. They are an incentive because of the amount of money that they make. People make private FCs just to have entire wards worth of workshops. This is damaging the community, accessibility to housing, and driving space for actual group oriented free companies away.

    Reward people for playing together. That's the point of an mmo. There are shy players yes, but mmos were always about overcoming that and forming CONNECTIONS within a world worth exploring.
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 10-09-2023 at 04:16 PM.

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    Why would you want a game to have less of literally anything. More group content? Sure. But why less solo content. Solo content doesn't kill other content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Why would you want a game to have less of literally anything. More group content? Sure. But why less solo content. Solo content doesn't kill other content.
    um, by making more group content u making less solo content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remolia View Post
    um, by making more group content u making less solo content.
    Yes, making group content deletes solo content. You're correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Why would you want a game to have less of literally anything. More group content? Sure. But why less solo content. Solo content doesn't kill other content.
    Solo content kills group content. When you have each person in your free company doing island sanctuary alone, instead of grouping up together for something, then you have less people doing group content. How can you not see that. We need more incentives to group up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Solo content kills group content. When you have each person in your free company doing island sanctuary alone, instead of grouping up together for something, then you have less people doing group content. How can you not see that. We need more incentives to group up.
    Do you really think Island Sanctuary is why your friends don't want to raid with you or something? If it wasn't in the game they might just go play something like Stardew Valley or Animal Crossing. Removing it or not adding it altogether doesn't make people want to do the other stuff.

    People should not be "incentivized" to play specific parts of the game. If they want to, they will. Stop trying to force people into specific content you want to play. Clearly they enjoy the solo content more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Do you really think Island Sanctuary is why your friends don't want to raid with you or something? If it wasn't in the game they might just go play something like Stardew Valley or Animal Crossing. Removing it or not adding it altogether doesn't make people want to do the other stuff.

    People should not be "incentivized" to play specific parts of the game. If they want to, they will. Stop trying to force people into specific content you want to play. Clearly they enjoy the solo content more.
    One again missing the point by gaslighting. I'm not saying Island Sanctuary is the sole cause, but there is a LOT of emphasis on solo lately, and that should not be the thing the game puts itself on. It's one thing when its a catchup mechanic to make it easier when there are dead ques, its another when literally half of the content is going to solo casual stuff. It's time for systems that are mainly solo to get additions added that make them more group oriented. It would help out a lot. The solo journey can be the learning, and the group activities can be where the skills get put to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Solo content kills group content. When you have each person in your free company doing island sanctuary alone, instead of grouping up together for something, then you have less people doing group content. How can you not see that. We need more incentives to group up.
    Lack of things to do when people don't want to interact with others doesn't force them into group content. It just makes them log out.

    We already have incentive to group up - dungeons can be run much quicker with other players than with Duty Support, allowing more dungeons to be run and increasing the potential rewards earned per hour by a fair amount.

    If some players are still choosing to do dungeons with Duty Support instead, chances are good it's because they have reasons they do not want to group with other players. It's doubtful that SE could create incentives that would get them to change their minds on those occasions.

    If someone wanted to be doing group content, they can queue easily from Island Sanctuary while doing whatever it is they want to do there. It's not preventing them from engaging in group content if they want to.

    Rather than trying to think of random incentives to get those players doing things solo to join group content, perhaps the better approach is to ask them why they are choosing solo over group and then address the issues they raise with their answers.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-10-2023 at 03:55 AM.

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    Have you checked Island Sanctuary yet? It's like the ultimate solo content to date. A game within a game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    But when you have an entire fanbase that LOVES mmos, who are enjoying this game, and you start taking away those moments that made the MMO magical, it isn't the game we love anymore. Give incentives that bring the playerbase together. Stop making content, and then abandoning it as soon as the expansion is over.
    Let us know when someone discovers that fanbase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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