Rival Wings is Gone

[Nikoto]

And I'm fucking depressed. PvP isn't fun without it.

Also add Duo Queue to CC. No, I still don't care about upsetti spaghetti solo babies.

[IckeDerTyp]

Rest in peace, sweet prince. Many really adored ya~

[tsuchii]

Proves to say nobody plays this garbage feature (PVP in general) for fun. I got my RW mounts and never set foot in it again.

[Nikoto]

Proves to say nobody plays this garbage feature (PVP in general) for fun. I got my RW mounts and never set foot in it again.

No, I was playing Rival Wings because it WAS fun.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Proves to say nobody plays this garbage feature (PVP in general) for fun. I got my RW mounts and never set foot in it again.

Nobody does anything in this game without adequate rewards tied to participation, thank you very much. Depending on the time of day + datacenter, Frontlines, Crystalline Conflict Casual AND Ranked all pop quite frequently.

Frontlines has Daily Challenge, Crystalline Conflict queues are fast by virtue of only needing 10 players. Rival Wings sits in the middle with a 48-man requirement but no Daily Challenge like Frontlines. It also takes a tad more awareness to play Rival Wings compared to Snore Lines.

So no, it proves nothing. All you are proving is your excellence in surface-level takes that lack critical insight.

[Towa-Musa]

Nobody does anything in this game without adequate rewards tied to participation, thank you very much. Depending on the time of day + datacenter, Frontlines, Crystalline Conflict Casual AND Ranked all pop quite frequently.

Frontlines has Daily Challenge, Crystalline Conflict queues are fast by virtue of only needing 10 players. Rival Wings sits in the middle with a 48-man requirement but no Daily Challenge like Frontlines. It also takes a tad more awareness to play Rival Wings compared to Snore Lines.

So no, it proves nothing. All you are proving is your excellence in surface-level takes that lack critical insight.

mmmmm i dunno chief, id play pvp a bit more if the fun modes were actually active.... hell id like it if they gave us a ctf mode., rewards are petty secondary to me when it comes to pvp since you get them just by playing the modes lol

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

mmmmm i dunno chief, id play pvp a bit more if the fun modes were actually active.... hell id like it if they gave us a ctf mode., rewards are petty secondary to me when it comes to pvp since you get them just by playing the modes lol

Ok let me put this in a simple-to-understand way Towa. I know your anecdotal experience with fun matters, but let's get to the bottom of this.

If Expert Roulette/Lv90 Roulette didn't exist and the dungeons themselves did not reward any tomestones, how many people would do them beyond first completion? Apply same logic to MSQ Roulette and its instances, Alliance Raid Roulette, Normal Raid Roulette, etc.

At the end of the day, fun and immersion are not enough to "keep" players playing beyond a first time completion, especially when completion depends on other players joining your runs.

[Mostly_Raxus]

i just dont get whey we cant just have 2 separate queues for CC a solo and a group queue.
then we keep the solo for the people who want it, it stays its own pool, and the group queue is for anyone solo or grouped that willingly decides to engage in that variant even if the odds may be skewed in favor or the more organized party.

more choices is always the answer, dont cater to one or the other, cater to both, its a game, paid for by fans seeking entertainment, entertain them.

[Valence]

Because it would dilute queues and group queue would probably die, or we'd switch to "full premades aren't fair vs duo premades". And tbh this would be a lot more of a problem than duo vs solo.

[Nikoto]

I don't see why we CARE about solo players in the MMO (MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE)