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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Alright, actually, instead of trying to have a deaf conversation between obviously two very different types of experiences where my casuals are not being impacted as much when yours are literally living through armaggeddon, please send me some footage of the problem so we can share a common basis?
    Perhaps I should consider it, as clearly quite a proportion of players seem to believe that purely because they haven't seen anything like that when in FLs, that it doesn't exist. That said, I am not particularly tech-savvy, so working out how would be a new challenge in itself!

    A few months ago when I was trying to get the Seal Rock achievement glamour on my alt, I found a particularly frustrating premade to be spamming the FLs for most of the afternoon/evening (inconveniently for me at the time, haha). They'd win every game by a huge margin. Occasionally I was put with them but, more often than not, I was against them. This did continue for quite a while but, more recently, I do admit that I have begun to see them slightly less. Now, if I do see them, it tends to be in the evenings/night. So, on the positive side, there's been some improvement in my experiences more recently. However, I don't doubt that other players on other DCS, are still going through the same issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scintilla View Post
    Perhaps I should consider it, as clearly quite a proportion of players seem to believe that purely because they haven't seen anything like that when in FLs, that it doesn't exist. That said, I am not particularly tech-savvy, so working out how would be a new challenge in itself!

    A few months ago when I was trying to get the Seal Rock achievement glamour on my alt, I found a particularly frustrating premade to be spamming the FLs for most of the afternoon/evening (inconveniently for me at the time, haha). They'd win every game by a huge margin. Occasionally I was put with them but, more often than not, I was against them. This did continue for quite a while but, more recently, I do admit that I have begun to see them slightly less. Now, if I do see them, it tends to be in the evenings/night. So, on the positive side, there's been some improvement in my experiences more recently. However, I don't doubt that other players on other DCS, are still going through the same issues.
    To be perfectly clear I have seen premades and I am not saying they don't exist. I just happen to disagree on their actual impact.

    You don't need to record or whatever, I was just interested if someone had any footage at hand, or VODs from any streamer where it can be seen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    You might look at K/D/A stats after each match. That's what originally got my attention. Obviously for a single match an excellent shot-caller and skilled players can produce surprising stats. But over the course of a session you see the same four names appear with consistently amazing stats.
    Never that clear cut in my experience, and usually I'm up there with the top as a solo player, with other solo players, which tends to makes me doubt that either we have any premades active when it happens, even though we can see them operate at times with that DRK followed by DRGs. I've never ever witnessed a single game where there was only 4 top names in the same team and literally nothing else at the top of the KDA...
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    Last edited by Valence; 10-16-2023 at 08:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Alright, actually, instead of trying to have a deaf conversation between obviously two very different types of experiences where my casuals are not being impacted as much when yours are literally living through armaggeddon, please send me some footage of the problem so we can share a common basis?
    You might look at K/D/A stats after each match. That's what originally got my attention. Obviously for a single match an excellent shot-caller and skilled players can produce surprising stats. But over the course of a session you see the same four names appear with consistently amazing stats.
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    Theres a premade in Light EU thats probably notorious by now for regularly carrying teams. Boring to play with and against.

    Edit: 80% win rate by the DRKs own words lmao. Assuming they meant weekly and on a sunday.
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    Last edited by Mecia; 10-16-2023 at 06:13 AM.

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    People finally realize how strong AST is in frontlines, I feel like it's been a sleeper pick for months, aside from those who knew. Can easily top the dmg ranking, macrococosmos hits hard and its whole kit is strong and full of utility, exponentially more so with competent players in your party or as a premade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    People finally realize how strong AST is in frontlines, I feel like it's been a sleeper pick for months, aside from those who knew. Can easily top the dmg ranking, macrococosmos hits hard and its whole kit is strong and full of utility, exponentially more so with competent players in your party or as a premade.
    Did you see your last line? Of course that's true. On the other hand, if your party scatters to the four corners of the map then the AST goes to waste.
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