What if the clover in the hint isn't green mage but...

[Saraide]

It's inherently a bit of a red herring (green herring?) because even if it is called green mage it might have nothing to do with any previous installments of green mage. Especially the prediction that it will be heavily debuff/dot oriented is strange because job design has been going away from dots at every corner.

[DamianFatale]

It's inherently a bit of a red herring (green herring?) because even if it is called green mage it might have nothing to do with any previous installments of green mage. Especially the prediction that it will be heavily debuff/dot oriented is strange because job design has been going away from dots at every corner.

Dots do make sense. I also wonder if this job had been planned a lot longer than people realized, whether it is green mage or not due to plot relevance. A heavy plot relevant job would be refreshing, because it feels like Samurai, and other jobs of past story hype didn't have as much relevance in their expansions until recently. Warrior of light was never as much of a Samurai in the media as much as they made us believe.. I really enjoyed the hints at reaper, and how they eventually played out with Zenos. Would be cool if there are some job hints we will see in part 2. Even if one of the jobs is already revealed, it would be cool to see it in game as a preview like they did with Gosetsu.

[Saraide]

Dots do make sense. I also wonder if this job had been planned a lot longer than people realized, whether it is green mage or not due to plot relevance. A heavy plot relevant job would be refreshing, because it feels like Samurai, and other jobs of past story hype didn't have as much relevance in their expansions until recently. Warrior of light was never as much of a Samurai in the media as much as they made us believe.. I really enjoyed the hints at reaper, and how they eventually played out with Zenos. Would be cool if there are some job hints we will see in part 2. Even if one of the jobs is already revealed, it would be cool to see it in game as a preview like they did with Gosetsu.

Dots are not a sensible prediction with how the job changes went this expansion. It would be a full turn around in job design. SMN lost the dots completely, BRD had them massively reduced in importance. No other job has gained significant dots outside of BLU which is completely outside of regular job design and does not count for this prediction.

[Bacent]

Dots are not a sensible prediction with how the job changes went this expansion. It would be a full turn around in job design. SMN lost the dots completely, BRD had them massively reduced in importance. No other job has gained significant dots outside of BLU which is completely outside of regular job design and does not count for this prediction.

Don't forget about the fact there's a hard limit on Debuffs/Buffs on players and enemies in total (More so noticible in extreme content and ultimates where some people can't use certain buffs on the party because their own personal buffs can 'miss). People are asking SE to change the limitation on it, but..

[Saraide]

Don't forget about the fact there's a hard limit on Debuffs/Buffs on players and enemies in total (More so noticible in extreme content and ultimates where some people can't use certain buffs on the party because their own personal buffs can 'miss). People are asking SE to change the limitation on it, but..

Absolutely. Although they seemingly increased the buff limit slightly according to some people in the thread dedicated to this issue.

[Bonoki]

It's inherently a bit of a red herring (green herring?) because even if it is called green mage it might have nothing to do with any previous installments of green mage. Especially the prediction that it will be heavily debuff/dot oriented is strange because job design has been going away from dots at every corner.

Let alone the fact that Green Mage has historically NEVER been a dot job ever. Not even poison, which is the foundation of DoTs.
It's just wishful thinking that Bio and Miasma will be given to Green Mage.

Sage says hi.

Not saying it's going to be a Green Mage, but they can and do literally whatever they want with the jobs regardless of their role in other FF titles.

Pretty much to be honest. Green Mage has really only been in two FF games, and anything else has been Green Magic without the Mage. Plus Green Mage has never been in any mainline title as far as I can see, only side games associated with the main games. Green Mage, as far as FFXIV is concerned, is practically a brand new Job. Or at worst, another Sage situation where it exists in other games but will have it's own identity in FFXIV.

[Yencat]

Pretty much to be honest. Green Mage has really only been in two FF games, and anything else has been Green Magic without the Mage. Plus Green Mage has never been in any mainline title as far as I can see, only side games associated with the main games. Green Mage, as far as FFXIV is concerned, is practically a brand new Job. Or at worst, another Sage situation where it exists in other games but will have it's own identity in FFXIV.

Personally I don't really mind, being too strict about how jobs play in other games would mean they're either dead in the water or never even considered. Sage was a bit out there for me at first but I kind of enjoy seeing the "classic" jobs implemented even if the similarities end up being minimal.