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    What if the clover in the hint isn't green mage but...

    It's just part of the hinted treasure hunt that it looks like the Warrior of light and the scions will be journeying on.

    Could be a red herring, and everyone fell for it, even though the green mage is a really cool idea. Colored mages are fun in the series, and that is the least developed one. Though knowing how the fanbase is, there is no not getting peoples hopes up if it turns out to be a red herring.
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 10-05-2023 at 06:02 PM.

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    It's inherently a bit of a red herring (green herring?) because even if it is called green mage it might have nothing to do with any previous installments of green mage. Especially the prediction that it will be heavily debuff/dot oriented is strange because job design has been going away from dots at every corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    It's inherently a bit of a red herring (green herring?) because even if it is called green mage it might have nothing to do with any previous installments of green mage. Especially the prediction that it will be heavily debuff/dot oriented is strange because job design has been going away from dots at every corner.
    Dots do make sense. I also wonder if this job had been planned a lot longer than people realized, whether it is green mage or not due to plot relevance. A heavy plot relevant job would be refreshing, because it feels like Samurai, and other jobs of past story hype didn't have as much relevance in their expansions until recently. Warrior of light was never as much of a Samurai in the media as much as they made us believe.. I really enjoyed the hints at reaper, and how they eventually played out with Zenos. Would be cool if there are some job hints we will see in part 2. Even if one of the jobs is already revealed, it would be cool to see it in game as a preview like they did with Gosetsu.
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    Green magic in FF is usually buffs...like protect and shell its the opposite of Oracle/RDM. It would be pointless. I think the three leaf clover represents Luck which points to corsair, as in Dice rolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Dots do make sense. I also wonder if this job had been planned a lot longer than people realized, whether it is green mage or not due to plot relevance. A heavy plot relevant job would be refreshing, because it feels like Samurai, and other jobs of past story hype didn't have as much relevance in their expansions until recently. Warrior of light was never as much of a Samurai in the media as much as they made us believe.. I really enjoyed the hints at reaper, and how they eventually played out with Zenos. Would be cool if there are some job hints we will see in part 2. Even if one of the jobs is already revealed, it would be cool to see it in game as a preview like they did with Gosetsu.
    Dots are not a sensible prediction with how the job changes went this expansion. It would be a full turn around in job design. SMN lost the dots completely, BRD had them massively reduced in importance. No other job has gained significant dots outside of BLU which is completely outside of regular job design and does not count for this prediction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Dots are not a sensible prediction with how the job changes went this expansion. It would be a full turn around in job design. SMN lost the dots completely, BRD had them massively reduced in importance. No other job has gained significant dots outside of BLU which is completely outside of regular job design and does not count for this prediction.
    Don't forget about the fact there's a hard limit on Debuffs/Buffs on players and enemies in total (More so noticible in extreme content and ultimates where some people can't use certain buffs on the party because their own personal buffs can 'miss). People are asking SE to change the limitation on it, but..
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Don't forget about the fact there's a hard limit on Debuffs/Buffs on players and enemies in total (More so noticible in extreme content and ultimates where some people can't use certain buffs on the party because their own personal buffs can 'miss). People are asking SE to change the limitation on it, but..
    Absolutely. Although they seemingly increased the buff limit slightly according to some people in the thread dedicated to this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genbe197 View Post
    Green magic in FF is usually buffs...like protect and shell its the opposite of Oracle/RDM. It would be pointless. I think the three leaf clover represents Luck which points to corsair, as in Dice rolls.
    You're thinking of the four leafed clover. Three leaves are the common variety and not considered especially remarkable or lucky.
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    It could be for a Druid job class that make it another healer class. 3 leaf clover was a sacred plant to Druids.
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    We already know that the new unseen job is a ranged caster dps, so I don’t imagine it’d be Green Mage. I mean, for one thing, it’d be kinda weird to have a job with ‘Green’ in its name but it’s in the red role section (dps) instead of, well, the green one lol. Plus, ‘Green Mage’ as others have pointed out is a buff/debuff class traditionally in FF, which literally cannot exist in ffxiv under any circumstances (which makes AST seem like a bit of a joke but that’s for another thread lol)
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