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    Another casualty of the devs' current obsession with obliterating any and all lingering threads from 2.0 - 6.0, and dealt with in the most slapdash and unsatisfying way possible. Even their designs felt cheap for the most part.

    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It actively detracts from the world-building to have the Eorzean pantheon just be yet another work of Hydaelyn who now don't even exist in any capacity.
    God, this. Why they couldn't just leave something to the imagination and let an air of mystery surround the true nature of the Twelve and religion in Hydaelyn rather than haphazardly stripping away the last of the intrigue left to the world, I don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephremjlm View Post
    Things that were pretty important like the whole Bahamut Calamity situation were literally written off with the Deryk saying "we were busy with our duties"
    ...please tell me this is hyperbole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    ...please tell me this is hyperbole.
    Naaaaaaw.

    I think I misspoke in this since I kinda emotionally wrote it late last night after I finished, because I remember the whole thing with Papalymo, but what Deryk said literally insinuates that they could have done something.......but they were busy.........
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    Myths of the Realm is the ultimate proof CBU3 doesn't do jack to archive and share past lore and plotlines proper to the new writers.
    Granted Endwalker already showed signs of that in 6.0, but MotR was very blatant about it.

    So if future expansions have connections to anything presented so far, expect inconsistencies and contradictions to only get worse.

    And I'll say more. Ever since 6.1 it became very clear that as bad as 1.0 was as a video game, the only reason FFXIV had a good setting in its first 8 years was because it was built on the foundations and ruins of this game's lore that was never CBU3's to begin with. The moment they had to create their own stories from scratch (or almost from scratch in case of this void mini saga) they show pure bog-standard shounen anime mediocrity coated in lazy fanservice.


    Look, I'm not saying they couldn't come up with a good self contained story if they tried. But that's the problem. They really want to commit to doing multi-expansion 'sagas' but they really shouldn't be doing that with that "lol you guys really care about the story huh???" attitude they have. Best thing for them would be to keep stories self contained from here on. Sure the stories would probably be bland, void of grey area or characters suffering actual lasting consequences, but at least it wouldn't be a whole snowball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    Ever since 6.1 it became very clear that as bad as 1.0 was as a video game, the only reason FFXIV had a good setting in its first 8 years was because it was built on the foundations and ruins of this game's lore that was never CBU3's to begin with. The moment they had to create their own stories from scratch (or almost from scratch in case of this void mini saga) they show pure bog-standard shounen anime mediocrity coated in lazy fanservice.
    Honest to god this thought crossed my mind when I got caught up on the patches back when Blue Mage came out. The thought came back to me here. I hope we're wrong because I generally really like FFXIV for the story and its setting (though I wish it had more of other things that really made me hyped) but now im kinda worried about DawnTrail, and I FEEEEEEEEL like the whole "this is just supposed to be like a vacation" thing is gonna come back up if people aren't happy with its story. Like it was a planted excuse that people could potentially latch on to.

    I hope im completely wrong on this btw, im just saying I could see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephremjlm View Post
    Naaaaaaw.

    I think I misspoke in this since I kinda emotionally wrote it late last night after I finished, because I remember the whole thing Papalymo, but what Deryk said literally insinuates that they could have done something.......but they were busy.........
    "In the wake of the Calamity, my brethren and I were all occupied with our respective duties." - Embraced By Gods

    He said that they were busy with the Calamity's aftermath, not that they could have done something about the Calamity itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn View Post
    "In the wake of the Calamity, my brethren and I were all occupied with our respective duties." - Embraced By Gods

    He said that they were busy with the Calamity's aftermath, not that they could have done something about the Calamity itself.
    Im not sure if you understand that this isn't the own that you think it is. I didn't give the exact quote but what do you think that quote means? "we were busy". And in case people forget the context he just mentioned it when he saw Gods Grip for the first time since before the calamity. It wasn't like he was saying "that wasn't our duty".

    But like okay "occupied with our respective duties", well wouldn't a world ending event be a respective duty!? And if not why not? I want to be told why, not just hand woven. And in that what about the other calamities!? Like this all just makes my point for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephremjlm View Post
    Im not sure if you understand that this isn't the own that you think it is. I didn't give the exact quote but what do you think that quote means? "we were busy". And in case people forget the context he just mentioned it when he saw Gods Grip for the first time since before the calamity. It wasn't like he was saying "that wasn't our duty".

    But like okay "occupied with our respective duties", well wouldn't a world ending event be a respective duty!? And if not why not? I want to be told why, not just hand woven. And in that what about the other calamities!? Like this all just makes my point for me.
    "In the wake of the Calamity"



    wake
    3 of 3
    noun (2)
    1
    : the track left by a moving body (such as a ship) in a fluid (such as water)
    broadly : a track or path left
    2
    : aftermath sense 3
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