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    Please undo 6.5 Duty Roulette hiding for Expert, Mentor

    Update: The devs have since acknowledged this as a Known Issue and it should be fixed in the future.

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    As of 6.5 the Duty Finder hides Duty Roulette: Expert and Duty Roulette: Mentor for anyone who has not completed all the requirements. This is different from the old behavior where when new content was added Duty Roulette: Expert and Duty Roulette: Mentor would be greyed out and their information panes would tell you which duties you needed to complete to regain access to them, with ??? to prevent spoilers if you had not yet unlocked those duties.

    The change in 6.5 is a bad UI/UX change. We've had many people in /novice asking what happened to their roulettes, and they wouldn't be asking if the behavior hadn't been changed.

    It might sound simple enough to tell them "do the new content" whenever a new patch comes out, but patch days are few and far between compared to the long periods between patches during which they will have access to roulettes once unlocked, and so patch days with the sudden disappearance of options from the Duty Roulette will always be jarring and will always result in many people asking what happened to their roulettes.

    The removal of greyed out DR: Mentor is also the removal of the only in-game checklist of everything that needs to be done for DR:Mentor, which means people now have to look outside the game for a checklist if they're not sure what requirements they're missing.

    Please revert this change so that DR: Expert and DR: Mentor appear greyed out with a list of their unfulfilled requirements.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 10-06-2023 at 05:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    The removal of greyed out DR: Mentor is also the removal of the only in-game checklist of everything that needs to be done for DR:Mentor, which means people now have to look outside the game for a checklist if they're not sure what requirements they're missing.
    How are regular players going to work out the fact that the duty they're missing is A Relic Reborn: The Hydra or Memoria Misera (Extreme)? They are the most out-of-the-way duties required for Mentor Roulette. Everything else is pretty easy to work out, but those 2 (3, if we include The Chimera) are most deserving of being removed from Mentor Roulette if possible.

    Memoria is explicitly non-canon since it can't be run by Blue Mages and should be excised from the Duty Finder, just like Delubrum Reginae is, and given how easy it is to unsync old content and the fact that Chimera and Hydra are already in Trial Roulette if you've unlocked them, there's no reason for them to be in Mentor either.
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    Thankfully this was unintended.
    Known Issues After Patch 6.5 (Oct. 5)
    Quote Originally Posted by Known Issues after patch 6.5 (Oct. 5)
    The following issues have been confirmed.
    We are currently investigating and working to address these issues.

    ■Duty Roulette: Expert and Duty Roulette: Mentor are not displayed in the Duty Finder when the conditions are not met.

    We apologize for the inconvenience.
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    That's cool to know, but l am not going to ever bother with mentor roulette, lol. I like to roll through the old extreme unsynced, not actually doing the mechanic
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