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    Arzalis's Avatar
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    They really do need to fix it. It's the primary reason PvP feels so bad to play sometimes, too.

    It's compounding the issue there because there are two players involved instead of just player and server.

    Also for the guy denying it, there's a really good writeup that exists for what the overall issue is. SE just keeps ignoring it and saying it's fine when it's something pretty much everyone experiences outside of Japan. As is often the case with them and anything network related, sadly.
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    Last edited by Arzalis; 10-05-2023 at 09:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    They really do need to fix it. It's the primary reason PvP feels so bad to play sometimes, too.

    It's compounding the issue there because there are two players involved instead of just player and server.

    Also for the guy denying it, there's a really good writeup that exists for what the overall issue is. SE just keeps ignoring it and saying it's fine when it's something pretty much everyone experiences outside of Japan. As is often the case with them and anything network related, sadly.
    Unironically PVP would be perfect and the best thing of this game with the proper netcode, i swear is so much of a shame such great gamemode suffers from the base like this
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    Both Benediction and Hallowed Ground don't actually go off until the end of the animation. I know there used to be some DRG abilities that had the same problem.
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    My question is, how much of it is SE's fault because 'bad game', and how much of it is just the US having poor internet infrastructure, which SE can't do anything about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    My question is, how much of it is SE's fault because 'bad game', and how much of it is just the US having poor internet infrastructure, which SE can't do anything about?
    how much of it is just the US having poor internet infrastructure, which SE can't do anything about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    My sibling in Hydaelyn, no amount of SE tinkering is going to save someone from 150ms (or worse, Hydaelyn forbid) ping because their provider decided copper wires from 20 years ago qualified as 'good enough internet'. I can play on a US server (which are in California, by the way) from the EU, and get at worst 110ms ping, which is better than many people I've seen comment.

    And I'm on a Wi-Fi connection using a $40 signal booster from Amazon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    My sibling in Hydaelyn, no amount of SE tinkering is going to save someone from 150ms (or worse, Hydaelyn forbid) ping because their provider decided copper wires from 20 years ago qualified as 'good enough internet'. I can play on a US server (which are in California, by the way) from the EU, and get at worst 110ms ping, which is better than many people I've seen comment.

    And I'm on a Wi-Fi connection using a $40 signal booster from Amazon.
    Fiber Optic cable internet. The best available to the public anywhere...still issues. It can be boths sides fault but with Fiber Optic internet....it's definitely on SEs end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    My sibling in Hydaelyn, no amount of SE tinkering is going to save someone from 150ms (or worse, Hydaelyn forbid) ping because their provider decided copper wires from 20 years ago qualified as 'good enough internet'. I can play on a US server (which are in California, by the way) from the EU, and get at worst 110ms ping, which is better than many people I've seen comment.

    And I'm on a Wi-Fi connection using a $40 signal booster from Amazon.
    You can keep coping all you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Fiber Optic cable internet. The best available to the public anywhere...still issues. It can be boths sides fault but with Fiber Optic internet....it's definitely on SEs end.
    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    My sibling in Hydaelyn, no amount of SE tinkering is going to save someone from 150ms (or worse, Hydaelyn forbid) ping because their provider decided copper wires from 20 years ago qualified as 'good enough internet'. I can play on a US server (which are in California, by the way) from the EU, and get at worst 110ms ping, which is better than many people I've seen comment.

    And I'm on a Wi-Fi connection using a $40 signal booster from Amazon.
    The reason why nobody takes statements like that serious is because we can directly compare this game to any other mmorpg on the market that don't have this issue.

    It just feel cheap. For no reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    My question is, how much of it is SE's fault because 'bad game', and how much of it is just the US having poor internet infrastructure, which SE can't do anything about?
    Look at netcode of every other MMO available on the market right now and FF14's and then I think the answer for if it's SE/game's fault or [bad location, US infrastructure, server localization, Bob's dinner, weather at 6 o'clock, size of Japan] is pretty clear.


    I hope it helps!
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    Last edited by Naven; 10-05-2023 at 11:56 AM.

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