Alliance Raid Now iLvl Locked, Why??

[DaichiSilurus]

Requirement at 90 is 565. The FREE artifact gear you get at 89 is 560. It can't be easier to do just a few post EW dungeons to become eligible. Absolutely no excuses.

Ah yes, let me do THE ENTIRE STORY OF AN EXPANSION, possibly several for someone very overlevelled, and then run a few dungeons. I'll just knock that out in an hour or so, should be easy...

Im not sure why anyone wouldnt want to upgrade their gear as often as they can. Why fight with a level 60 weapon when you can have a level 90 weapon?

People on the free trial have it hard, I can see that. They cant even access the market board.

Seems to me though, the issue is more with the path to 80 buff giving way too much XP.

Because a level 90 weapon is functionally identical to a level 60 weapon in a level 60 raid. You can get some extra substats due to the way scaling works, sure, but that doesn't matter outside of optimising for ultimates. They won't actually be fighting with a level 90 weapon either way, they'll be paying for a level 90 weapon to fight with a level 60 weapon.

[AmorfaVex]

Ah yes, let me do THE ENTIRE STORY OF AN EXPANSION, possibly several for someone very overlevelled, and then run a few dungeons. I'll just knock that out in an hour or so, should be easy...



Because a level 90 weapon is functionally identical to a level 60 weapon in a level 60 raid. You can get some extra substats due to the way scaling works, sure, but that doesn't matter outside of optimising for ultimates. They won't actually be fighting with a level 90 weapon either way, they'll be paying for a level 90 weapon to fight with a level 60 weapon.

Right, so why not buy a 30k level 90 weapon to unlock the raids?

I dont see the problem here.

[DaichiSilurus]

Right, so why not buy a 30k level 90 weapon to unlock the raids?

I dont see the problem here.

Someone shouldn't have to pay for gear to meet the requirements of content they can't run. It's partly a principle thing, because that's the way the game has always been designed up till now, but also "a 30k weapon" is going to add up real fast when you consider they need an entire gearset (at least enough to hit an average of 565, which can make a few pieces skippable if you otherwise have level 80 gear but not all that many, especially for someone who's further back in the story and doesn't have Cryptlurker as their baseline) for every job that hits 90. 19 weapons, 7 armour types, you're talking over a million gil's worth of classical gear even if you half your price estimate (which is about what it would be on my DC). Which is not an absurd amount of money in the grand scheme of things but is an absurd amount to fix a problem that is easily avoidable by applying the ilvl based on duties unlocked or MSQ progress rather than purely on level.

And after spending all that gil they end up fighting exactly as well as they did before in every piece of content they're going to be doing for the foreseeable future.

[AmorfaVex]

Someone shouldn't have to pay for gear to meet the requirements of content they can't run. It's partly a principle thing, because that's the way the game has always been designed up till now, but also "a 30k weapon" is going to add up real fast when you consider they need an entire gearset (at least enough to hit an average of 565, which can make a few pieces skippable if you otherwise have level 80 gear but not all that many, especially for someone who's further back in the story and doesn't have Cryptlurker as their baseline) for every job that hits 90. 19 weapons, 7 armour types, you're talking over a million gil's worth of classical gear even if you half your price estimate (which is about what it would be on my DC). Which is not an absurd amount of money in the grand scheme of things but is an absurd amount to fix a problem that is easily avoidable by applying the ilvl based on duties unlocked or MSQ progress rather than purely on level.

And after spending all that gil they end up fighting exactly as well as they did before in every piece of content they're going to be doing for the foreseeable future.

I see. So this isnt a technical issue that we are struggling with, this is a gripe against the development team for the way they designed the game.

If someone can level a character to 90, im sure they can afford to buy the items they need.

My bad though. I thought this was an actual issue, not another thread bashing the devs.

Good luck with your crusade, its not my battle, and for that reason, im out.

[Erzaa]

My bad though. I thought this was an actual issue, not another thread bashing the devs.

Nobody is bashing devs, and everyone is happy they're finally listening to feedback around ilvl cheesing. But the fix was implemented in such a way that it negatively affected a percentage of the playerbase, and asking that it be hotfixed.

Nice ad hominem attack though. Best of luck to you.

[min-ryne]

As everyone mentioned, it's to circumvent the ilv cheese that's been going on for a while, now players are forced to essentially queue for all alliance raids up to Aglaia when queueing for alliance roulette.

But they went with a weird solution that essentially locks new players out of said roulette since most will be Lv 90 by the time they hit the end of HW.

Who in the hell is level 90 by the end of HW lmao

[Krokov]

Who in the hell is level 90 by the end of HW lmao

They're talking about the Road to 80 buff that increases the experience points you get I suppose with doing a lot of questing and stuff while doing all that you can hit 90 before the end of Heavensward

[Darkobra]

So I did genuinely get crystal tower yesterday. It was an ALL sprout alliance. Utter chaos. People kept using flames on the ice as frogs and melting it, bosses got pulled to the very wall causing mechanics to be very punishing when they attack one half of their bodies... It was the most fun I've had in years doing Crystal Tower. Utter chaos.

Also, yes, 565 gear is literally nothing. You can buy 610 for basically venture cash or one round of, ironically, roulettes.

[Ivtrix]

With the amount of complaining in here, you’d think SE made the requirement to do alliance raid to be to complete an ultimate. The reqs arnt hard.

[min-ryne]

They're talking about the Road to 80 buff that increases the experience points you get I suppose with doing a lot of questing and stuff while doing all that you can hit 90 before the end of Heavensward

It's still highly unlikely that that happens, considering I was one a road to 70 buff server when I started and was maybe I want to say around level 65-68 at the end of HW. If you're already at 90 by then then you should really just play another job, it's what I did when i realised how over-levelled I was and realised I preferred the job I had picked up anyway