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    [Suggestion] More Trust NPC Options

    Now that all of the MSQ dungeons have been fixed to have duty support and be able to run with trusts, I'm hoping that the dev team might go back and consider adding additional NPCs to run as trusts? If only because some of my most favorite dungeons are simply lacking in important characters that are actually there at the place and time, but aren't included in favor of random faceless NPCs or just doesn't make sense.

    A couple of examples:
    The Ghimlyt Dark (just added in 6.5) has only these choices. Hien as samurai (fills as tank slot and dps), Yugiri (dps), Alisaie (dps), and... random "Doman Shaman" for healer. Whereas this is the final big dungeon before Shadowbringers and there's plenty of good choices that are actually present! Like Kan-E-Senna for healer. Aymeric and Pipin for tank. Or maybe even the star of the expansion, Lyse? Why were only the above shown?

    Baelsar's Wall: Most of HW duty support has your staple favorites (Haurchefant, Ysayle, Estinien) except, again, for the expansion ending dungeon. The one that should absolutely be including Papalymo, Yda, all the other scions that were present and infiltrating...

    Ala Mhigo: Does well in letting Arenvald, Lyse, and Raubahn be there, but again there were other NPCs actually there and present! In the very opening cutscene you see Raubahn and Pipin rush in. Aymeric and Lucia later on, so on so forth.

    SHB and beyond is all good because they were made with the content in mind and multiple choices, but please consider adding just a few more options to older dungeons as well.
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    Agreed 100%.

    A Realm Reborn suffers from this problem immensely, in that you only ever get to use random nameless adventurers/Z-list Scions as your Duty Support. Why not Alianne and Isildaure for the first three dungeons? (And if you said "who?" that just proves my point.) Why not some Scions with actual names once we join them? Honestly I assumed Arenvald had died in the raid on the Waking Sands up until he showed up later, so maybe him?

    I had the same exact thought about Baelsar's Wall. Not using Lyse and Papalymo for the Duty Support was really sad. And Hilda was right there! Why not her?
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    That's explained though by how ARR's story treats duties in ARR like dungeons as you gathering together several other random adventurers (presumedly at the Adventurer's Guild), before entering, so the Duty Support system reflects that by mostly giving you nameless NPCs (and ironically no longer being able to stretch the credibility of this idea any further with SHB being set in an entirelly different world that doesn't have the Adventurer System required the use of named NPCs, mostly the Scions who ended up in that world with you, in the first place - the story practically outright ignores entering with a player party as just gameplay, for all intents and purposes you completed the likes of Amaurot with the NPCs). In fact, the story for Castrum Meridanium and the Praetorium specifically declares you're leading an 'elite adventurer unit' as a special forces assault on the Ultima Weapon while the main Alliance forces divert the Garleans' attention away, so that kind of limits who you can take usually.

    Why other story NPCs could not join you was because the story had already had them indisposed with other tasks, and so they simply were not available to help you e.g. in Sastasha individual parties entered but only yours survived - Aliaane and her grandpa ended up fleeing for their lives due to the enemies being too strong for them and did not get far, and well, we all know what happened to poor Evare's party... so there is simply no way the story could use them as Duty Support.

    And for that matter, the early Primal fights in ARR that are now available through Duty Support would all but prevent most story NPCs who do not have the Echo/Blessing of Light from fighting them, simply because the enemies are Primals, long before Alisaie developed the cure for tempering and Nidhana with the Thavaniarian alchemists successfully developed shielding protection from tempering.

    I do agree though with the request to have perhaps a bit more variety with the characters offered as Duty Support, but again it all depends on the situation as to who could be available as per the story for that point - it's just not possible to have say Raubahn tromping along with you in Thousand Maws of Toto Rak, that's just being realistic.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 10-07-2023 at 06:54 AM.
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