Thread: Revelations from Patch 6.5: "Growing Light", Part 1

Originally Posted by SannaR

Answer to both questions of point 4

Yes to both. It literally was another Crystal Exarch situation. Not everyone is going to give it their all in these kinds of situations. To point 1 look at Ishgard they just recently got told the war they had been fighting for one thousand years was based on a lie. Now go and tell them that Halone was an ancient construct of sorts that fought you, doesn't like how their prayers made her into a goddess of war and then left. Or anyone who didn't believe in the twelve. Sorry the kami and any other religious figures aren't real. Sucks to be you bro. Yes, it would have been a messy thing to tackle, but it kind of misses the entire point.

Myths of the Realm

And that's really my issue. We are yet again harboring '' forbidden knowledge '' that when spread, could have severe consequences. And, well, I want to see those consequences. But now, not only are we incredibly powerful, our understanding of the world is completely different than most people's of Etheirys, and we know the truth about our existence and our world and our gods in a way most people will never know it. We know the truth, and it causes an even further rift between the main characters and the people of Eorzea. Of course, there's always going to be something that sets the main characters apart from the rest, that's obvious, but at this point we know too much and we are too powerful to the point it's kind of overbearing to me, and breaks my immersion.

It's not a huge deal I guess but... I don't want more '' forbidden knowledge that may never be passed on because it would cause huge changes in Eorzea's cultural landscape (which would be cool to see) '' nonsense in the future.

Originally Posted by Tehmon

Myths of the Realm

And that's really my issue. We are yet again harboring '' forbidden knowledge '' that when spread, could have severe consequences. And, well, I want to see those consequences. But now, not only are we incredibly powerful, our understanding of the world is completely different than most people's of Etheirys, and we know the truth about our existence and our world and our gods in a way most people will never know it. We know the truth, and it causes an even further rift between the main characters and the people of Eorzea. Of course, there's always going to be something that sets the main characters apart from the rest, that's obvious, but at this point we know too much and we are too powerful to the point it's kind of overbearing to me, and breaks my immersion.

It's not a huge deal I guess but... I don't want more '' forbidden knowledge that may never be passed on because it would cause huge changes in Eorzea's cultural landscape (which would be cool to see) '' nonsense in the future.

10 things kupo

I get the whole disliking hiding knowledge that could change the world view of many. Yet it took humanity this long to get to the point the "gods" felt it was OK to stop doing their job. I don't think the average person of Etheirys is there yet to be told what we learned. Look at the kind of stir we were making when discussing openly Nald'Thal near one of his shrines. I like to think that at some point down in the distant future this knowledge could be shared with the general public. Sort of like it took many a cycle for the races of the Milkyway to get to a point where they could co-habitate with synthetic life in the Mass Effect universe. I'm more concerned that we now seem to be stuck with somewhat biblically accurate angels.

For nostalgia purposes the MSQ was about a 7/10. I would have preferred more lunar subterrane specific encounters and to not have that particular last boss but it was still a nice, warn feeling to see those sights and hear that music updated.

For story purposes though, probably a 5/10. The dialogue here was painful and we just ran down shonen territory again. Everything here was pretty predictable which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it still left me wanting. And personally speaking, I was hoping we'd see something of the legacy heroes. But eh, if they ever do a 13th expansion maybe then.

A mixed bag over all. It was better than anything we got in Endwalker proper but still not as competently written as anything before.

Endwalker (just the main MSQ for the start of the expansion): 7/10 (due to the timing and something I posted on another post awhile back-- I gave this one a high note).
Anything remotely after 6.x started ~ now: 3/10. Disappointment.
Overall: 5.5/10
Definitely would not recommend.

Totally agree with you, Iscy.

Does Deryk now actually travel the world like Alpha and Omega? He explicitly said he'd visit the places named after the gods so that might be a hint for potential spawns? Would be neat!

On the discussion re merchants

The simplest in-game answer is that there are merchants around Elpis, some with an explanation like the gemstone trader (IIRC she says she's got some kind of familiar that eats bicolor gemstones), others being harder to explain like the multiple junkmongers selling player equipment that, from a lore perspective, would be outlandish garments no respectable Amaurotine would be caught dead in. (Some sell the PVP-copy sets and others the Neo-Ishgardian sets.)

Thinking over Myths of the Realm, I put a finger on something that was bugging me...

I dislike it in something of the same way I dislike the Sorrow of Werlyt, in that it spent a large chunk of its time introducing a cast of characters with one-note personalities for no other purpose than to kill off every last one of them by the end of the story.

On a totally different track, I checked the variable cutscene in the Ocular.

Confirming that if you turn off the "reflect quest progression" button, the cutscene ends just before Gaia would have arrived.

Other than that, the scene up to that point mostly has the same script either way, besides one line where Beq Lugg mentions working with Unukalhai.

Also, for anyone who picked the line about coffee biscuits when Gaia was asking who you were, that answer doesn't really make clear that she was just joking, which she says straight away if you ask whether she's lost her memory again.

Originally Posted by Eisi

Does Deryk now actually travel the world like Alpha and Omega? He explicitly said he'd visit the places named after the gods so that might be a hint for potential spawns? Would be neat!

I don't know, but it seems possible.

Just after he left, I flew down to Moraby and checked the Mark of the Spinner in case he was there, but he wasn't. Though it would have been lucky to find him on the first try even if it actually is a thing that can happen.

Purely speculative, but if he does turn up, it would be neat if he gave little bits of extra lore about something useful when you found him.

Originally Posted by Iscah

Also, for anyone who picked the line about coffee biscuits when Gaia was asking who you were, that answer doesn't really make clear that she was just joking, which she says straight away if you ask whether she's lost her memory again.

Just wanna say that this bugged me as well lol.

I chose that option during my actual play-through, and I assumed, as her response carried on, that she was joking, but it really shouldn't be as ambiguous as it is. In English, her actor's reading was strange, but that's on the director; if she'd been told, "Gaia's joking here," I imagine she might've given us a more playful reading, but it certainly doesn't sound like that was the case. All it would've taken to fix that, though, would've been an extra line or two for clarity.

Anyway, I'm glad I went back to rewatch the cutscene with the other option, because that branch is much less awkward, much more charming, and it was interesting to hear she was writing an actual book -- about what, we may never know, but nevertheless.