Aloalo:
Maybe I missed it (I haven't finished all of the routes), but do they explain what Kalika is? I assumed he was an auspice, but normally they clarify that type of thing upon an auspice's introduction.
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Aloalo:
Maybe I missed it (I haven't finished all of the routes), but do they explain what Kalika is? I assumed he was an auspice, but normally they clarify that type of thing upon an auspice's introduction.
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Last edited by Zero-ELEC; 11-03-2023 at 01:15 PM.
Variant dungeons are difficult in an 'immediate thoughts and reactions' thread like this, because they're intended to be a slower burn even on the lore and storytelling side. I love them for that, but it makes it hard to report back with thoughts. I've only had the time to do one run so far, but it's already probably my favorite variant dungeon so far.
That run ended in fighting 'The Lala', which if cutscenes around it can be believed, was a post-Nymian arcanima construct, very neat, and shows us cool things about the workings of arcanima. Also, Matsya's dialog in that fight makes Forced March extra creepy. He mentions not understanding it afterwards, but I'm not sure if that was a hint towards 'the Echo translated that for us but not Matsya', or towards 'The Lala was speaking several grades above Matsya's reading level'. Neither of which feels tremendously important, honestly, but hey.
I still need to do Mount Rokkon as well as Aloalo.
One thing I did notice about Aloalo Island:
One of the arcanima familiars that you fight (I believe it's the mid-boss whose moves depend on which route you take and the things you do in them) uses "Made Magic", which was a spell that was previously only used in the the Tower at Paradigm's Breach, by False Idol/Her Inflorescence when she made the big laser. Which... implies something. I don't know what that is, though. Like, I guess at the base sense, it means it's literal "made magic" as both are artificial creatures. Although the False Idol/Her Inflorescence is more the result of the Seed of Destruction taking the Red Girls and making them more Grotesquerie/Angelic/Flower-based direction, rather than literally made, but you know, Drag-on-dragoon details.
Last edited by Zero-ELEC; 11-04-2023 at 12:52 PM.
Aloalo:Not explicitly. The word 'auspices' does come up a couple of times in the entries and dialogue, but it's probably meant in a more traditional sense ('guidance').
I think Kalika fulfills Senri's criteria at least informally, as he's able to remember events dating back to the Fifth Umbral Calamity.
Kalika: I can tell you only of legends passed down through generations. Of biting frost that turned seas to ice, which drove the Speaker's makers to go forth in search of a haven where light shone bright. Those who came long after found Aloalo, where life had weathered the ancient rime. At the island's heart was the Speaker, its jewel flawless and radiant.
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Matsya: Just how old are you, Kalika? You speak of eras so ancient that they are as myth to us.
Kalika: Your guess is as good as mine, Master Matsya! I remember well when the island was bustling and vibrant, its inhabitants dedicated to esoteric equations and other cultural pursuits. Some even attempted to unravel the mysteries of the Speaker and its jewel.
I was born in the great shrine, this much I know. When the people found me, I spoke to them in their own tongue─they were beside themselves in disbelief! Thus was I deemed the Speaker's servant.
/tenrabbits
Actually, that quote confirmably removes the possibility being discussed.
Basically the most confirmed and verifiable thing about Auspices is that they take a long goddamn time to happen: it's basically when a normal animal survives so long that it happens to just gain deific powers probably through aether collation. But Kalika instead being able to immediately communicate after its 'birth' removes the possibility of Kalika being an Auspice.
My best guess, from a current standing of not having done many of the endings, is that perhaps Kalika is the Speaker's 'carbuncle'. But for that to be true I'd have to be making a lot of assumptions about the Speaker's nature, far beyond the point I'm comfortable with my assertion.
Last edited by Cleretic; 11-04-2023 at 06:20 PM.
Aloalo:
There's a bit more to it than that. The Speaker, Loquloqui, is a giant lalafell statue carved out of wood that guards the Jewel in the deepest part of the island, placed there by the island's original inhabitants ('the forgotten people') back in the Fourth Astral Era. When the Fifth Umbral Calamity of Ice struck, there was an exodus from the island (which we've heard also happened in many other places, including Meracydia) to the fertile and aetherically rich lands of Eorzea. Some of those descendants went on to found the city-state of Nym.
During the Fifth Astral and Sixth Umbral Eras, various peoples arrived back on the now deserted island, some of whom were of Nymian descent. Statice likely belonged to one such settler, and is thought to have persisted after her Scholar's death by drawing on the aetheric supply of the Speaker's Jewel.
After the War of the Magi and the subsequent Sixth Umbral Calamity of Water, some of the island's second set of settlers returned to Vylbrand, bringing back with them the knowledge of Arcanima as we understand it today. This cross-pollination between Nym and Aloalo likely explains the interconnections between the various Arcanist-derived techniques.
Sparrows themselves are quite common in Thavnair and on Aloalo. Kalika was able to talk by the time he first met the second set of settlers on the island, but we have no precise time frame about how old he actually was at the time. Given his recollections, it's entirely possible that he predates even Nym, which means that he could have been a couple thousand years old by the time of his first encounter with the new settlers. It is possible that his time spent in proximity to the aetheric energies of the Jewel contributed to his unique longevity, however.
The most recent set of Aloalo's inhabitants worshipped three animal deities that they placed to guard the entrance to the temple. Performing a ritual for them is necessary to enter the temple of the Speaker. One such deity is likely Kalika. The second is Ketuduke, who is a flying whale of the variety that can be found in the Southern Seas. The third is a sea turtle, whom I don't think we meet directly. They also came to revere the Speaker as well when they discovered the temple, so this is likely a case of mythos constructed upon mythos.
Lastly, in case you were wondering if there was a point to all the fishing - the fish that lived in the temple of the Speaker had a property that protects against illness, which was used to cure an epidemic that struck the infants of the island's inhabitants. Matsya ends up gifting the fish to Vaazti, the baby daughter of Qerasaf and Mehvan.
/tenrabbits
Last edited by Lyth; 11-04-2023 at 08:14 PM.
Bumping as I don't remember anyone mentioning any of these things. That and this stuff doesn't really fit well under any of the more recent thread topics.
I found out that you are able to poke the twins once you're done with 6.5. They're outside of their house on the left. Alphinaud is still thinking about how much more they could be helping Garlemald in their recovery. Another hint at a Garlean restoration of some kind down the road. He also assumes we have been enjoying our current down time. Alisaie on the other hand wishes she could have been at the banquet and assumes everyone who had been in attendance had a great time. Then informs us that dear old dad said that he wishes to have a sit down with us. And I'm here going oh my what of the various topics would he want a private chat about?
There's so many such as our time in Ultima Thule, Elpis, Pandaemonium, half of the playerbase's headcannon of starting adoption papers for the twins, our time on the first, half of the playerbase deciding to dress his wife up in skimpy clothes even if she asked us to, what went on with the twelve, our ability to summon a demi version of Phoenix. I then got curious to see if any other npcs had new things to say and there are some. Though I will admit I'm not sure as to when these changes happened. Jevan who's right outside the Leveileur estate says that he's been telling his friends that if they really want to know more about the WoL that they should be reading The White Yonder which we now know is penned by Honoroit.
Georjeaux mentions that they are trying to work on a play based on our exploits in Ultima Thule. While Bevis mentions that there is a debate on which of the Scions could deliver the strongest single blow. They're behind it being Alisaie while there are many who figure it's Estinien. The Alisaie fan might have new dialogue, but I'm not sure. I'm also not sure if one of the other npcs in the studium mentioning a bigger interest in prophecies especially those talked about in papers that were written by Louisoix is new or not. If you poke around the Noumenon it seems that there is a race to be the first to write and publish a book on the Scions. That any book already in existence that has any mentioning of the Scions or the Circle of Knowing are in high demand.
Last edited by SannaR; 12-27-2023 at 02:00 AM.
Typical Sharlayan bias, it's obviously Estinien unless you're actively trying to deny that it is. Alisaie can't do those kinds of bombing strikes!
I could see an alternative case being made for strongest critical strike, Estinien's attacks are a little too... big to go for a weak point (unless the weak point is similarly big, like that tower in The Peaks). But even then I'd probably put my money more on Y'shtola.
heavensturn:
omikujishi's name is taiyaki this year. since his name last year was morisoba, i assume his schtick is gonna be food names.
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