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    Rank 19 IS quest wasn't as bad as I thought it might be. After looking at the outfit it does say summer vacation if you love boating as that is your typical outfit you see a lot of people wear who own boats. It'll be interesting to see who the rank 20 visit will be. Though I'm a little weary since it's a visitor(s) that have been recommended by Sicard and Emmeline.
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    Final Margrat story

    They're trying to make microwaves and we finally get a gleaner outfit. Sadly without the backpack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Final Margrat story

    They're trying to make microwaves and we finally get a gleaner outfit. Sadly without the backpack.
    I admit that the quest to get that got me a little misty-eyed. Margrat's story remained more a series of snapshots than a real story, but it's still one that stuck its landing really well.

    Hearing abotu the nervousness and anxiety of the people of Labyrinthos while we were in Ultima Thule kinda got me; it was well-done, and I think really tied up the point of Margrat's story, to make us actually think about a lineup of faceless people who put their faith in us then.

    Also, on a lore perspective: Mention of the South Sea Isles as the origin for (presumably modern) arcanima! I can't quite tell if that's new information or not, but if it isn't, it's certainly long dormant information, not having come up since probably ARR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Also, on a lore perspective: Mention of the South Sea Isles as the origin for (presumably modern) arcanima! I can't quite tell if that's new information or not, but if it isn't, it's certainly long dormant information, not having come up since probably ARR.
    I'm sure I've heard it before somewhere - presumably either in Plainsfolk, arcanist or Lominsan history info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm sure I've heard it before somewhere - presumably either in Plainsfolk, arcanist or Lominsan history info.
    Looking deeper for this, it does come up very briefly in the Encyclopedia Eorzea entry for the Arcanists' guild... and, weirdly, the New Game+ description of the Arcanist questline, but is in no way mentioned in the Arcanist questline itself. So it's one of those pieces of lore that just sat there quietly for years until suddenly being dragged out for this and probably the new variant dungeon.

    I always love to see that sort of trick. They've mentioned doing it in interviews before, basically digging up old lore to make the new idea they've got fit in with the existing world, and this shows why that's such a good idea: it hits me as a really new concept that makes me look at this part of the setting in a different way, but now that I'm doing that I can see that it's been there this whole time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Looking deeper for this, it does come up very briefly in the Encyclopedia Eorzea entry for the Arcanists' guild... and, weirdly, the New Game+ description of the Arcanist questline, but is in no way mentioned in the Arcanist questline itself.
    Checking back on that, it might not come up within quests classified as the arcanist questline, but it does come up in the pre-enrolment quest So You Want to Be an Arcanist.

    The roots of arcanima can be traced back to the esoteric calculations practiced by the people of the south sea isles. It was these island folk that first discovered a method to express natural phenomena in mathematical terms.
    Building on this process, the existing mathematical formulae were further developed into arcane geometries─precise patterns that allowed a practitioner to weave aether into specific magical effects. The mages who invoked this new form of magic became known as “arcanists,” and the school of arcanima was born.
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    The class description for ACN on the main ARR site on the Lodestone also states Arcanima originated "across the southern seas":

    Quote Originally Posted by Final Fantasy XIV Promotional Site on the Lodestone
    Adepts of the art of arcanum derive their might from symbols of power born of geometric techniques hailing from across the southern seas.
    I seem to recall though that it originally stated "from the southern islands", and has been retconned, but that might just be the Mandella Effect at work.
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    Okay, I think we're just fundamentally disagreeing about what part of Grimr's post is the 'somewhat rooted in the thing we actually played' part, and which part is just him conflating something unrelated; his argument doesn't make sense on its face, so some part of it must be wrong. Either he's talking about Zeromus causing holes in dimensions and then deciding that the talk about Zeromus threatening the wards is about the same thing, or he's talking about Zeromus threatening the Zodiark wards when Zodiark didn't, but mistakenly calling it 'the barrier between dimensions'. Both are wrong for basically the same reasons, and we're just bumping into each other because you're assuming he's talking about the former, and I'm assuming he's talking about the latter.

    We're never going to get clarification because Grimr is a drive-by poster who never returns to a thread after making a single post, so I think it's best to just recognize we're making that mistake and move on.

    (Also, got Grimr's name wrong in the last post! Whoops! Not gonna fix it, because the mistake was already seen and quoted.)
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 10-26-2023 at 10:02 AM.

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    Aloalo:
    Haven't seen much discussion around this yet, but being based in the South Sea Isles, Aloalo has some interesting tidbits about Arcanima as well some tie-ins to Nym. Also, giving a SCH fairy a gun was an ingenious idea.


    /tenrabbits
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    Aloalo:
    Maybe I missed it (I haven't finished all of the routes), but do they explain what Kalika is? I assumed he was an auspice, but normally they clarify that type of thing upon an auspice's introduction.


    words words words
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    Last edited by Zero-ELEC; 11-03-2023 at 01:15 PM.

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