Thread: Patch 6.5 patch notes

Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

I’m sure it’ll probably just be some sort of extra conversation with Ryne, unless they’re going to have Ryne give a synopsis of the events of the raid to players who didn’t run it, which seems unlikely…

You're thinking about it from the wrong direction. They're not going to explain the raid to people who haven't done it, precisely because they haven't done it. The events have not happened. Their lack of sidequest completion has left reality in a slightly non-canon state where the Scions departed the First having only helped with the very preliminary exploration of the Empty, and Ryne hasn't even met Gaia yet.

This is simply how the game handles non-completion of sidequests – compare the quest that touches on your progress in Coil when Alisaie joins the party at level 60. You can see there are points where both Alphinaud and Alisaie's dialogue is loaded up with multiple script options depending on where you got to with those quests: didn't even meet with Alisaie; did the first stage; got far enough for Alphinaud to be involved; completed the whole thing.

So there is likely to be variable dialogue in the same vein to account for multiple stages of Eden, but then also they seem to have worked out ways to have characters conditionally appear in cutscenes now, so it's possible that Gaia will be there if she exists to be there. Or at least Ryne will talk about her, and perhaps she can be found elsewhere in the Crystarium.

Regardless of exactly how they acknowledge it, there will have to be a resolution for the MSQ that doesn't totally rely on Eden being the answer. Perhaps it gets handled through Ryne's power as the Oracle somehow.

Originally Posted by Allegor

It started as a nice easter egg worldbuilding thing, but now that it's an actual plot point in EW's MSQ it's really kind of a head scratcher for anyone who finished the caster/all role quests in ShB....at least they realized Ryne should be involved to an extend.

My longstanding suspicion is that they're angling for further sidequest development on this front, and MSQ is just helping to get things in place for that. We could have a mega sidequest merger of role quests + Triad + Eden + post-MSQ thing for Zero.

Originally Posted by StarRosie

Another thing that irks me with the current story is that, to my knowledge they have not ONCE made reference back to the Shadows of Mhach raids, despite those raids dealing a ton with not just voidsent, but HIGH LEVEL voidsent (Including a Voidsent QUEEN!) and a ship that doubles as a massive Voidsent prison. Gee...I wonder what we could do with a massive Voidsent prison...hmmm, hmmm...(Even if the Void Ark crashed, we could still salvage stuff from it to help with our current situation. But it's far too late to link back to it now...)

So, what could we actually do with a massive voidsent prison that works by requiring us to perform dangerous and forbidden summoning rites to deliberately drag a powerful voidsent into the Source, give it a physical form to use and then attempt to imprison it?

Doubly so if you're thinking about using it on Zeromus, where the whole point is getting Azdaja out of it, not sealing the whole thing away.

One thing quite clear from the Void Ark storyline is that the ship was an unsuccessful prison. The voidsent got out and nearly wreaked havoc. We might be able to subdue it, but it would still be a matter of dropping a ticking time bomb in the Source.

Originally Posted by Dagget

Glad to see they eliminated ilvl cheesing for Alliance raids, no more restricting one's self to Crystal Tower runs only. Your level is now matched to an ilvl range you have to be wearing when you queue up.

Won't stop people from just... not unlocking any other alliance raids.

Originally Posted by Hasrat

Won't stop people from just... not unlocking any other alliance raids.

Stops the ones who already unlocked them on their main account and have been cheesing this whole time...

Now we pressure SE into making the roulette locked if you don't have a raid unlocked at a certain ilvl.. don't have Void ark and the others unlocked at 60 to bad.. you can't do Alliance roulette until you fix that. An so on an so on for each capstone level.. just like mentor or expert roulette

I have all 90s on my main (other than blue mage of course) while still in post-Stormblood, wonder if this will stop me from queueing alliance raid roulette until I've completed Endwalker?

The clusters were nice to be able to get from in need bonus when levelling roulettes' wasnt the same role...

After the changes to alliance raid roulette I sure won't ever be using it ever again. Pretty sure it be harder for the new players that need Crystal Tower Raid for the MSQ.

Originally Posted by hynaku

After the changes to alliance raid roulette I sure won't ever be using it ever again. Pretty sure it be harder for the new players that need Crystal Tower Raid for the MSQ.

Why wouldn't you?

Originally Posted by hynaku

After the changes to alliance raid roulette I sure won't ever be using it ever again. Pretty sure it be harder for the new players that need Crystal Tower Raid for the MSQ.

It won't be. The roulettes prioritize new players in a direct queue over people just running roulettes. CT will still be the most common raid. It just won't be the only one.

Originally Posted by Ririta

They can just make better incentives for clearing the higher level ones, I only got Crystal Tower 2 times during this tome event. Lots of Euphrosyne and Ivalice though.

They did add better rewards.. I personally don't think people deserve them after all the years of cheesing but im not SE so whatever..