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    Varient/Criterion and Endwalker relic are a huge success

    Few days ago in an interview we got news that the endwalker relic was the MOST completed out of any relic ever. That's really surprising considering people like to throw around that the completion rate is lower than bozja...

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    Which tells me and finally the people that use that xiv achievement site is providing false (and so is lucky bancho and you shouldn't use it as hard evidence) and to my understanding people have to even sign up to record...it should have been obvious regardless since it shows more people clearly uwu than the msq but I digress. Another interesting thing he said is most people didn't really ask for relic specific content until now. Which tells me people didn't care for exploration content at the time, as I have always been saying - but anybody that's played SB and ShB already knew this.

    However it isn't all doom and gloom for the classic relic steps fans, yoshi-p does know there are people that like the long grind so I'm not going to sit here and confidently say that 7.x will be the same as endwalker but the chances are very slim in returning back to ARR/HW styled Relic as data shows people VASTLY prefer what we have now due to people playing multiple jobs jobs days warning more one relic and people of the younger generation prefer this style opposed to the older generation that grew on hardcore grinding and taking 120 hours for a single relic.

    Something people don't like to realize is games HAVE to appeal to the younger generation because we are the ones buying and playing games mostly now and even we have busy lives, so faster relics are the best option to get relics as we can't really invest over 120 hours for a single relic.

    One big counter point I see people use a lot against the high completion rate is that it's easy to get due to you being able to get it passively.

    That is true HOWEVER SE obviously knows people enjoy it even if that's the case. So it's not just it's easy to get , it's more it's accessible and people "enjoy" that they're able to get it so easily hence it's popular. I can see people bringing up bozja and it's decent completion rate as people always use that site as proof however...despite that completion rate nobody actually enjoyed doing it. It was a means to an end, if it was popular CBU3 would have brought it back for a 3rd time but they didn't. Companies like SE have incredible powerful tools to know what people want, they know what people talk about and what they like. They know what's being said in game chat and in the official fourms.

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    If you guys didn't know the save the queen story was cancelled because it was very unpopular, why everything happened off screen/via

    All an all. 7.x relic steps has a very high chance of being the same as 6.x steps but it's not guaranteed so feel free to keep giving your feedback.

    Now for variant dungeons. I'm quite relieved to know that this content has been extremely successful. Another nail in the coffin of people using that achievement site to determine it's activity. Which I've always found strange since when I queue in these dungeons they pop up in less than 5mins. However keep in mind they said variant and not criterion meaning the savage version could very well not be active as even I have to admit that I very rarely see people actively recruiting for this, but we do have confirmation that variant at the very less has been a success and it's coming in 7.x at a faster rate rather than just being every other patch. I think most people even hear enjoyed varient.

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    I sorry if I sound like I'm gloating but I feel vindicated after always being called a lier and people always bringing up the xiv achievement site which is mostly NA and EU using it and even a very niche amount of people even create an account for it.

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    One thing I'm happy to bring up and finally put to rest is a long standing belief that CBU3 only listens to japanese. Well I'm pleased to say that no that's not true as they're directly adjusting criterion dungeons SOLELY due to overseas players aka NA and EU. So you guys can stop this silly idea that they only listen to japanese.

    So with all that. 7.X is looking to be a GREAT expansion.
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    Last edited by Threneras; 09-28-2023 at 06:46 PM.

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    grats on 90
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    grats on 90
    I'm sure it was worth every penny
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    i sneezed today
    grats on 90
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    Grats on 90
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    To actually address one of the OP's points, most of Bozja's relic completed forms were.....questionable, at best. I know some people like the RDM one but when I looked at the completed one, talk about deflated.....And that's supposed to be one of the better looking ones.......The DRK one looks nice though. As for the latest tier of this current relic, most of the colors they chose for glows are kinda vomit inducing, ngl.
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    Last edited by KitingGenbu; 09-29-2023 at 02:58 AM.

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    The collection websites reflect collector / achievement hunter / veteran player interests and don't really include or reflect all the casual players who don't care for achievements, mounts and grinds so much. Lucky Bancho however has tested their own data against SE information released by accident in shareholder meetings in the past and the estimated amount of alts was up to 20% or less, but I think that was before Data Center Travel which reduced the need for them.

    I felt that enough people did the exploration content because you could see them doing it whenever you entered, they just weren't required to keep doing it for Bozja because an alternative with guaranteed drops existed, while Eureka was overwhelming to get into late in the expansion due to there being 4 areas and 60 levels which Bozja solved. People still do Eureka and Bozja even today. I think what he meant by people not doing it was that people chose to farm old content instead of doing Bozja, but they had to do it initially to unlock the relic quests.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    To actually address one of the OP's points, most of Bozja's relic completed forms were.....questionable, at best. I know some people like the RDM one but when I like the completed one, talk about deflated.....And that's supposed to be one of the better looking ones.......The DRK one looks nice though. As for the latest tier of this current relic, most of the colors they chose for glows are kinda vomit inducing, ngl.
    The geometric shape aesthetic they went with isn't great. Some of the Matt models are fantastic though - Mch in particular, and the Rdm one if you want a weapon that looks more like a staff or cane.
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    Grats on 90. Seeing you post reminds me of Renethras. He's been unusually silent as of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman View Post
    Grats on 90. Seeing you post reminds me of Renethras. He's been unusually silent as of late.
    Maybe like some of us he's growing bored of the same troll poster and their repetitive topics. Can only keep interest so long.
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