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    Darkobra's Avatar
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Are you triggered by that?
    Amused. I feel like posting the gif of Obama giving himself a medal. They've obviously had a fight in another forum and he had to dig through his post history to sling more dirt.

    It's why I come here for the fun drama and the low quality bait but go to Reddit for actual discussions and people who actually know what the inside of a dungeon looks like and not just Limsa Lominsa.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Im starting to notice a very obvious Pattern that Im only now catching on to......
    Dont know if Im upset about it, or impressed it stealthed me for this long.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Im starting to notice a very obvious Pattern that Im only now catching on to......
    Dont know if Im upset about it, or impressed it stealthed me for this long.
    Oh? What's that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I've always had a theory that SE's servers run on rather outdated hardware and solving performance issues/migrating to newer architecture etc is problematic (Eg: look at how long EU servers had horrible rubber banding in duties for back in SB).
    They have improved the hardware sometimes with infrastructure maintenances.

    If that is indeed correct, running the servers in the cloud (Aka basically running on AWS or Azure etc) will give SE far more flexibility to scale the capabilities of the DC up or down as required and most importantly, they should be able to scale it virtually overnight.
    Yes, that is the point. The reason they decided against the cloud is because it's slower. However, it also allows them to respond to congestion such as what we get at an expansion launch. So that is why they are making it an option but not making it replace the physical servers. They believe physical is faster.
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    Last edited by Jeeqbit; 09-24-2023 at 04:34 PM.
    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Oh? What's that?

    They have improved the hardware sometimes with infrastructure maintenances.

    Yes, that is the point. The reason they decided against the cloud is because it's slower. However, it also allows them to respond to congestion such as what we get at an expansion launch. So that is why they are making it an option but not making it replace the physical servers. They believe physical is faster.
    Im not gonna say it out loud.
    Ill just be stealth and keep it to myself.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Technical/spicy take:

    I've always had a theory that SE's servers run on rather outdated hardware and solving performance issues/migrating to newer architecture etc is problematic (Eg: look at how long EU servers had horrible rubber banding in duties for back in SB).

    If that is indeed correct, running the servers in the cloud (Aka basically running on AWS or Azure etc) will give SE far more flexibility to scale the capabilities of the DC up or down as required and most importantly, they should be able to scale it virtually overnight.

    As long as the entry point isn't problematic, aka ping, I think it's a neat idea and I'm glad to see them try it.
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    Outside of Koros troll doing Koros troll things… they’re doing a testing phase first and can work it out from there. Honestly I think it’s a good thing to consider if it gives them a backup or contingency for the future. I also wonder if this means they can do more down the line infrastructure wise. Take the physical off to upgrade and transfer to cloud while doing the work for instance or go to cloud only I dno
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    Lennit Potato
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    i don't know , wouldn't running this as a cloud servers be worse for player that live far away from the data centre , and every keystroke would have delays , because they would be a constant download and uploads of all data . like world , character and actions.
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    Last edited by lennit; 09-24-2023 at 07:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lennit View Post
    i don't know , wouldn't running this as a cloud servers be worse for player that live far away from the data centre , and every keystroke would have delays , because they would be a constant download and uploads of all data . like world , character and actions.
    No... that is not what they mean by a cloud server.

    They mean a server that can scale with demand. Instead of owning their own, physical machines, which they currently do, they stretch a virtual software machine over as many physical machines as is needed. Who lends them all these temporary machines as needed? A huge company like Amazon.

    But as I have been saying, this process can make things slower.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    No... that is not what they mean by a cloud server.

    They mean a server that can scale with demand. Instead of owning their own, physical machines, which they currently do, they stretch a virtual software machine over as many physical machines as is needed. Who lends them all these temporary machines as needed? A huge company like Amazon.

    But as I have been saying, this process can make things slower.
    ok thanks . just wanted to know . because i'm a Aussie, that play on the NA server, don't want any more unpreventable lag given to me
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    Riamara Skye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    I sincerely don't think SE's netcode can handle this.
    Go outside.
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