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    Bad_Luck's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    The "former MMO player" Yoshi P wishes to appeal to young players.

    Second Life crowd?
    Kids love Second Life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    The "former MMO player" Yoshi P wishes to appeal to young players.

    At first you'd think they're trying to entice traditional FF players, but Duty Support is hardly the main problem of the game.

    Second Life crowd? Let's be honest, that's accidental, JP doesn't have a huge ERP scene to sustain the game there.

    With recent interviews it's now clear who exactly they're trying to cater to - and ruin the game in the process. Young gamers. A nebulous, ill-defined player segment that they don't themselves understand. They're bringing up examples like Fortnite. Square Enix thinks FF14, along with the rest of their product line, should evolve to chase these young players. Which is why we have things like FF7: Battle Royale edition.

    Give up now, CBU3. No 14 year old is going to play a tab targeting MMO with a 2.5s GCD that makes you read hundreds of hours of dialogue.

    You know what they said about turn based RPGs? The market is dead, no one is going to play it anymore. Sure, young people might not play turn based RPGs, but surprise, if you make a good RPG, people flock to it. You get critically praised.

    Maybe FF14 should start trying to be the best MMO it can be instead of chasing clouds.
    Go outside.
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    Honestly good. One of the few things I liked about this game's community was that there weren't a bunch of 16 year old kids running around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Jfc why did I even post on a bait thread, this place sucks. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Honestly good. One of the few things I liked about this game's community was that there weren't a bunch of 16 year old kids running around.
    Speaking from experience, those 16 year olds aren't going to be safe here.
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    Thread is a somewhat failed premise. XIV already attracted younger kids earlier in its life cycle. Who the younger kids are now has changed though. FFXIV 2.0 and beyond has never tried to appeal to older gamers. It recycles a lot of older FFs because the designs are all owned and done, which speeds up the content creation.

    Beyond this, they've endeavored to make XIV appeal to mainstream audiences, i.e. non-gamers or new gamers. They have largely succeeded. This is why gameplay is secondary to many many people who subscribe to it.
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    I can tell if I didnt already have a leveled character in this game I couldn't stomache going through ARR and Heavensward and I would drop this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Beyond this, they've endeavored to make XIV appeal to mainstream audiences, i.e. non-gamers or new gamers.
    This is the most hilarious thing I've heard all day.

    Mainstream audiences are not going to play ANY MMO, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    This is the most hilarious thing I've heard all day.

    Mainstream audiences are not going to play ANY MMO, period.
    is that so. wonder how WoW got so big? oh yeah.. they appealed to groups that werent actually gamers and got them into gaming. (mainstream audiences)

    you sure nailed that one. definitely a failed method of approach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    is that so. wonder how WoW got so big? oh yeah.. they appealed to groups that werent actually gamers and got them into gaming. (mainstream audiences)

    you sure nailed that one. definitely a failed method of approach
    Nah, WoW got popular because Blizzard gave their marketing team an infinite budget to work with resulting in them flooding every magazine and website they could find with ads, flooding TV with celebrity commercials, and stores with any kind of merch imaginable... including "adult" toy stores... >.>

    Basically it was a massive hype engine pushing a mediocre to decent product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Nah, WoW got popular because Blizzard gave their marketing team an infinite budget to work with resulting in them flooding every magazine and website they could find with ads, flooding TV with celebrity commercials, and stores with any kind of merch imaginable... including "adult" toy stores... >.>

    Basically it was a massive hype engine pushing a mediocre to decent product.
    I would also argue the game came at the right place at the right time when online social interaction was starting to boom. That in of itself caused so many casual people who didnt even fully play the game but instead used it as a medium to interact and hang out with friends.
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