Suggestion: Give Physical Ranged DPS single target mitigation

[nguyentri11]

I think Physical Ranged DPS should have a bit more utility so maybe a single target mitigation would be good. Something similar to Aquaveil, Divine Benison, or Exaltation that they can use on other party members. It can also work as their own personal mitigation.

[Oizen]

Doesn't MCH already have this

[nguyentri11]

Doesn't MCH already have this

Dismantle and Tactician/Troubadour/Shield Samba are party-wide mitigations not single target. And I mean adding a single target mitigation to all the Physical Ranged DPS jobs not just 1 job. Even if MCH did have a single target mitigation then BRD and DNC should get it too.

[nguyentri11]

By the way I'm not talking about enemy targeted mitigation to reduce the enemy's damage like Feint, Addle, and Dismantle. Just like what I did say in my original post, I meant single target mitigation you can apply to yourself or another party member such as Aquaveil, Divine Benison, or Exaltation.

[Supersnow845]

I’m not really sure what purpose this would serve

Tanks and healers are already overflowing with single target mitigations they barely use

Look me in the eye and tell me you use every single charge of divine bension and aquaveil in an encounter or use every charge of taurochole and haima other than for the memes

[nguyentri11]

I’m not really sure what purpose this would serve

Tanks and healers are already overflowing with single target mitigations they barely use

Look me in the eye and tell me you use every single charge of divine bension and aquaveil in an encounter or use every charge of taurochole and haima other than for the memes

If there's a particular buster whether in Savage or Ultimate that hurts a lot it can help. If any party member is somewhat low on HP before a raidwide and no one else notices but the Physical Ranged DPS it can help. Or it can simply serve as your own personal mitigation for when you think you're low before a raidwide.

[Supersnow845]

If there's a particular buster whether in Savage or Ultimate that hurts a lot it can help. If any party member is somewhat low on HP before a raidwide and no one else notices but the Physical Ranged DPS it can help. Or it can simply serve as your own personal mitigation for when you think you're low before a raidwide.

Yes but I mean does that really justify a buttons existence

Tankbusters already run into “kitchen sinking means each CD matters less due to diminishing returns” and like I said above healers already have a wealth of single target mitigation they have nothing else to spend on because autos are so weak

As for the “party member low on health and only phys ranged notices” that’s basically the same reason wardens paeon exists for its effect niche and it’s barely used as it is because of the healers don’t notice it, it’s very unlikely the phys ranged notice it

As for a personal mitigation tool I mean I’m not fully opposed to that but do the phys ranged really need one. In casual content they can just use their AOE mitigation for it and in high end content everyone is already relying so heavily on the shield healer that personal mitigation has become almost useless except for like RPR’s crest of time borrowed because that generates a useful effect when it’s absorbed

[nguyentri11]

Or if you're pugging Savage and playing with tanks that tend to not press their mitigation or just forget to press them then it would be helpful there.

[TabrisOmbrelame]

I think Physical Ranged DPS should have a bit more utility so maybe a single target mitigation would be good. Something similar to Aquaveil, Divine Benison, or Exaltation that they can use on other party members. It can also work as their own personal mitigation.

If I'm not mistaken, Ranged DPS had this back in stormblood. It was something called Palisade and it was a 20% PHYSICAL Mitigation for 10 sec on a selected target and that couldn't apply to himself. It was a strong tool because the mitigation was high but the CD was 150 sec (Yeah, we didn't all have 60/120 on things back then)

Today, Tank already mitigate 20% Naturally (Look at their lvl 1 passive skill), so I guess that's why they deleted it.

Adding again a mitigation on top what all ranged DPS have would be overwhelming. All Ranged can reduce damage by 10% (Twice for the MCH). Dancer can heal and shield. Bard can also upgrade the healing done to everyone. So that's basically two Defensive Tool for each Ranged class.

We don't need one more at the moment

Or if you're pugging Savage and playing with tanks that tend to not press their mitigation or just forget to press them then it would be helpful there.

That's just skill issue from the tank. That doesn't justify a defensive cooldown for ranged

[nguyentri11]

Yes but I mean does that really justify a buttons existence

Tankbusters already run into “kitchen sinking means each CD matters less due to diminishing returns” and like I said above healers already have a wealth of single target mitigation they have nothing else to spend on because autos are so weak

As for the “party member low on health and only phys ranged notices” that’s basically the same reason wardens paeon exists for its effect niche and it’s barely used as it is because of the healers don’t notice it, it’s very unlikely the phys ranged notice it

As for a personal mitigation tool I mean I’m not fully opposed to that but do the phys ranged really need one. In casual content they can just use their AOE mitigation for it and in high end content everyone is already relying so heavily on the shield healer that personal mitigation has become almost useless except for like RPR’s crest of time borrowed because that generates a useful effect when it’s absorbed

The first point I will concede that as long the tanks and healers are competent then it is unnecessary. But I do think in a party where that's not the case then it will be helpful. You can't really control someone else's level of skill in a pug unless you type something and they actually listen. A single target mitigation would at least be something within your control.

The second point I disagree with it being as niche because I've witnessed several cases where a DPS has died because they were low before a raidwide compared to everyone else. If they were noticed by the healers they wouldn't have died. Whether the Physical Ranged DPS would notice is up to them but it would be something within their control in that situation.

For the third point being do they really need one? Maybe it's not essential to have personal mitigation but similar to what I've said to the second point I've seen a lot of times where others have died to a raidwide because they were lower than others in HP. And I've seen just as many times where someone's personal mitigation like Third Eye, Manaward, or Radiant Aegis makes the difference between life or death in that situation. I think that every job should have access to a personal mitigation including RDM and DRG.